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Texas Constitutional Amendment Proposals 2023
Secretary of State of Texas ^ | 08-09-2023 | Greg Abbott

Posted on 10/25/2023 8:38:23 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius

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To: SSS Two

I don’t think they can raise the tax rate beyond a certain level without voter approval.


41 posted on 10/26/2023 7:57:40 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: SSS Two

Over 65’s are losing their homes due to the exorbitant property taxes, of which a good 50-60% are school taxes; they get no benefit whatsoever from paying those.

As opposed to county, city, and college; those are used/can be used by over 65s (and everyone).

There’s a calculator where you can look up your new taxes and see the effect of prop 4; many folks stand to have their taxes drastically reduced, and some may hardly pay any at all.

Link here:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2023/10/16/find-out-how-much-youre-saving-on-your-2023-property-tax-bill/


Go to http://texas.gov/ and look for “Resident” on the top white tab. Then click on “Property Tax Transparency.” Scroll down to “Find your county’s website.” Click on your county’s name.

If, for some reason, that doesn’t work, enter the site by going to http://texas.gov/propertytaxes and click on “Property Tax Transparency.”

Once you’re in your county, enter your property address, your property’s tax ID or your name. If you enter your address and it doesn’t come up, delete the words Lane, Drive, Street, Circle, Court, etc. That’s a flaw in the software that counties are using.


42 posted on 10/26/2023 9:16:27 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: Saint Athanasius

I’m certainly not willing to pay for city parks in El Paso.

No on 5 - no money for woke indoctrination via higher education.

No on 6 - looks like something lobbyists would buy to line someones pockets at taxpayer expense.

No on 7 - unlike 6, this was obviously bought by lobbyists to enrich the rich further at taxpayer expense.

No on 8 - see 7.

No on 9 - at least we know who hired the lobbyists for this one.

No on 10 - See 6 or 7 - private enrichment at Taxpayer expense.

No on 11 - Already mentioned. Let the Democrats in El Paso build their own parks

No on 12. Sounds like a personal vendetta. Settle it with a duel on the beach at dawn. Don’t drag the whole state into what looks like a personal fight.

14 - Suspicious of who is going to end up with the money. Also wonder if this has anything to do with Little P’s plan for the Alamo.


43 posted on 10/27/2023 6:20:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
No on 5 - no money for woke indoctrination via higher education.

Interesting juxtaposition here. No on 5 because no money for woke higher education. But Yes on 4 which removes spending caps on K-12 education.

I also don't understand your opposition to 12. It is an explicit effort to reduce the size of government in order to save money, yet you're opposed.

44 posted on 10/28/2023 9:54:42 AM PDT by SSS Two
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To: WildHighlander57
You need to understand that one of my guiding principles is that government should treat everyone the same. That is not up for negotiation.

I also understand that people like you and BLM who argue for preferential government policies for their favored special interest groups think that they have good reason for those preferential policies.

45 posted on 10/28/2023 9:57:39 AM PDT by SSS Two
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To: SSS Two

Where did I say ‘yes’ on anything in my post?

I will add a “NO” on 2. Looks like more shifting of tax burdens from favored folks to everyone else.


46 posted on 10/28/2023 11:09:46 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Saint Athanasius

I’ve yet to locate an honest to goodness concise analysis of these Amendments.


47 posted on 10/28/2023 1:41:06 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: SSS Two

Where does prop 4 remove spending caps?

I am —for— people, especially those on —fixed incomes—, not losing their homes to exorbitant property taxes.


48 posted on 10/28/2023 3:39:37 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: WildHighlander57
The proposed amendment excepts appropriations of state tax revenue for purposes of paying for ad valorem tax relief from the constitutional limit on the rate of growth of appropriations. This change has the effect of exempting state payments to reduce school district taxes from the general state spending cap on appropriations and applies to the amounts appropriated by the 88th Legislature to decrease school tax rates as directed by S.B. 2.

Source: Texas Legislative Council; page 14

You really are married to the idea that government policies should benefit certain groups of people over others. The only difference between you and BLM is which groups you want to have preferential treatment.

49 posted on 10/29/2023 6:25:36 AM PDT by SSS Two
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To: PAR35
No on 11 - Already mentioned. Let the Democrats in El Paso build their own parks

Isn't that what this does? Allows El Paso County to issue bonds to build their own parks? Why would the rest of the State be paying for a county's issued bonds?
50 posted on 11/07/2023 7:09:26 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: LastDayz

Jane’s post in #19 here seemed pretty quick and clear on them.


51 posted on 11/07/2023 7:11:01 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: WildHighlander57

Yes on the first 4. Definite NO on 13, I have been in too many courtrooms with older judges who should already be retired.
Yes on the 2 county specific ones. No on all the others.


52 posted on 11/07/2023 7:17:23 AM PST by nomorelurker
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To: Svartalfiar

Why would it be on my ballot if it doesn’t impact me? My city builds its own parks without the rest of the state voting on it. I remember something on the ballot a few years ago where someone in El Paso was going to line their pockets at taxpayer expense.


53 posted on 11/07/2023 11:20:10 AM PST by PAR35
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To: luvie

No, he’s just a “former” Beaumont Democrat.
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54 posted on 11/07/2023 11:30:05 AM PST by Theodore R. ( )
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To: Theodore R.

Ahhhh.....


55 posted on 11/07/2023 12:51:56 PM PST by luvie (🇺🇸The bravery/dedication of our troops keeping us safe & free make me proud to be an American.🇺🇸)
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To: Svartalfiar

Anything coming out of Harris is subject to a minimum of double secret scrutiny.


56 posted on 11/08/2023 8:52:22 AM PST by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: PAR35
Why would it be on my ballot if it doesn’t impact me?

Because it's a State-level restriction that only allows certain counties to issue bonds to pay for building and maintaining parks. So as a State-level restriction, it requires a State-level action to add El Paso County to that list. And as a Texas citizen, you get to vote on Texas-level stuff.
57 posted on 11/18/2023 7:22:34 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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