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1 posted on 10/17/2023 12:14:58 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 10/17/2023 12:15:14 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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The corrupt Jamaican stooge weighs in with her third-world view of the Constitution.


3 posted on 10/17/2023 12:16:49 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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USSC needs to rein this mess in. Now.


5 posted on 10/17/2023 12:18:45 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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Court challenge
6 posted on 10/17/2023 12:19:46 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: Banana Republic)
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Could make some hay out of it.

Every time the subject comes up:

"And regarding the DC case, the gag order from Judge Chutkan denies us the first amendment right to speak freely."

7 posted on 10/17/2023 12:20:05 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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Jack Smith sure is a crybaby wimp.


8 posted on 10/17/2023 12:21:16 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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And gutless Republicans say nothing.


9 posted on 10/17/2023 12:21:40 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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“...the court is entitled to draw restrictions to ensure the fair administration of justice.”

“Judge” Sh!tkan isn’t the least bit interested in the “fair administration of justice” she’s just part of Deranged Smith’s 4 Black Stooges.


10 posted on 10/17/2023 12:22:29 PM PDT by euram (allALL)
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It is well known that a court has no enforcement power of itself. Of itself, a court cannot do anything if its order, especially if it is unconstitutional, is ignored. That’s what nullification is.

The executive branch of the local, state, or federal court must enforce the order. Wouldn’t it be nice if the commensurate executive branch simply ignored the unconstitutional order along with the the target of the order?

Nullification of unconstitutional court orders would be a nice thing to see.


12 posted on 10/17/2023 12:23:41 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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If Jim Jordan manages to pull off the vote for Speaker, he should start issuing Subpoena’s for every Judge and Lawyer involved in the inquisition of Trump and force them to testify before Congress on a whole host of Issues,

Statute of Limitations
Presidential Immunity
Acts of CONGRESS
GAG Orders
Judicial Bias
...

“U.S. CODE
TITLE 2—THE CONGRESS
CHAPTER 6—CONGRESSIONAL AND COMMITTEE PROCEDURE; INVESTIGATIONS
Sec. 193. Privilege of witnesses
No witness is privileged to refuse to testify to any fact, or to produce any paper, respecting which he shall be examined by either House of Congress, or by any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or by any committee of either House, upon the ground that his testimony to such fact or his production of such paper may tend to disgrace him or otherwise render him infamous.”

Simply look up Hinds Precedents, especially chapters 53 and 51, and Cannon’s Precedents, especially chapters 184-185. You’ll find numerous detailed cases of Congress asserting its power, arresting people, holding them until they agreed to answer questions, and then releasing them. Some of these people did not refuse to appear, but simply failed to satisfactorily answer questions.

Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)

If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.

Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.

Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.

Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.

Some references

[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html

[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html

[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit

[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html

[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf

[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/

In 1857, a New York Times reporter refused to say which members of Congress had asked him to get them bribes (protecting his “sources” just as various Judith Millers today protect the people who feed them proven lies that costs thousands of lives), so Congress locked him up until he answered and then banned him from Congress.

In 1924 an oil executive appeared but refused to answer certain questions, so the Senate held — literally held — him in contempt. Senator Thomas Walsh of Montana argued that this question of contempt was of the gravest importance, and that it involved “the very life of the effective existence of the House of Representatives of the United States and of the Senate of the United States.” The matter was taken to court, and the witness fined and imprisoned.


13 posted on 10/17/2023 12:24:38 PM PDT by eyeamok
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New York Times Co. v. Sullivan

President Trump has every right to criticize Jack Smith.

-PJ

14 posted on 10/17/2023 12:25:02 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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1170 A.D. King Henry the Second: ‘Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?’


16 posted on 10/17/2023 12:27:53 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second.)
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I think that this seems to give him the freedom of speech he needs:

“This order shall not be construed to prohibit Defendant from making statements... asserting that the Defendant is innocent of the charges against him or that his prosecution is politically motivated,...”

Now, you could suppose that this statement precludes him from putting the forth the arguments to prove that he is innocent, but if the Court means to say that assertions of his innocence do not include anything and everything that supports that assertion, it’s up to the Court to explicitly state that.


17 posted on 10/17/2023 12:34:45 PM PDT by dangus
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This article sparked a recollection:

Amadeus funny clip - The emperor attends rehearsal (ballet with no music)

Except what is being done is NOT funny.

18 posted on 10/17/2023 12:35:00 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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Meanwhile Jack Smith is free to leak allegations about Trump with impunity.


21 posted on 10/17/2023 1:03:22 PM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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So just use “Judge Pig Vomit”
and other assorted Noms de Guerre.


22 posted on 10/17/2023 1:13:52 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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This will be appealed, and reined in. This is a leading candidate for President, less than 13 months before an election, you CANNOT restrict his rights to free speech!


28 posted on 10/17/2023 1:47:02 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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They think they are untouchable. “The court”, my a$$. She is out of order.


29 posted on 10/17/2023 2:04:44 PM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Chutkan to China, the Chinese chicken. Have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin’.


30 posted on 10/17/2023 3:11:24 PM PDT by ponygirl (Stay gold.)
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im glad it is broad

more likely to be squashed on appeal


31 posted on 10/17/2023 4:04:42 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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