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Robert F. Kennedy's divorce from the Democrats TIES the 2024 race between Donald Trump and Joe Biden - as he sucks independents away from the ex-president
Daily Mail ^ | October 14, 2024 | Nikki Schwab

Posted on 10/14/2023 9:22:59 PM PDT by Angelino97

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s announcement Monday to run for president as an Independent complicates the presidential race, with early surveys showing him tying up the race between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

A Fox News poll from Wednesday found that in a three-way race between Trump, who is the frontrunner for the Republican nomination, Biden and Kennedy, Biden and Trump tie at 41 percent and Kennedy sucks up 16 percent of the vote.

A Zogby survey conducted for the pro-Kennedy PAC American Values 2024 had similar findings, with Trump and Biden tied at 38 percent and with Kennedy garnering 19 percent of the vote.

What's interesting is that when a generic independent candidate was polled against Trump and Biden, Trump actually won that race 40 percent to Biden's 38 percent, but when Kennedy - a prominent anti-vaxxer - was specifically asked about, he pulled support away from the Republican ex-president...

Additionally, the numbers shake out differently in the Fox poll.

In that survey, Biden was one point ahead of Trump if just the two of them were on the ballot - with 49 percent for Biden and 48 percent for Trump.

When Kennedy was added, Biden lost that edge and he and Trump tied.

But a two or three-way general election isn't likely, because academic Cornel West has already entered the fray and will likely appear as the Green Party's candidate on the 2024 general election ballot...

Fox found that independents were more likely to go for Kennedy, 41 percent, than West, 28 percent - and that was detrimental to Trump, who performs 9 percent better among independents against West than when Kennedy is in the picture.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: RoosterRedux
The BLM/Woke/LGBTQ movement in America has been carefully nurtured by Marxists for many years. They started back in the early 20th century indoctrinating people in the black community and then moved to the educational system.

We have a ruling class that knows how to remain in power through divide and conquer tactics. BLM and wokeness are just the latest methods. As long as the masses are divided arbitrarily against each other, they can't know that they all are getting screwed by their leaders. Thus, we get ruled by the Uniparty, each playing the other side of the street from the other in a false two-party system which ultimately serves but one master.

These are the Globalists who plan to control whatever dictatorship is ultimately installed.

The Constitution bans titles of nobility for the good reason that Europe's nobles cut deals for themselves and their families at the expense of the country they held title. They frequently changed allegiance to a sovereign and brought their underlings with them. Globalism has had a similar effect. We are now governed by an oligarchy of people in essentially competing political crime families. They cut deals for themselves at the national expense. Just think about Hunter Biden and how he made his millions. How did our politicians get so wealthy? It's not a secret.
101 posted on 10/15/2023 9:52:51 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Angelino97

Anyone who read his book Fauci knows he sided with the Dems, and blamed it all on the GOP. Trump was forced into using Faucet, as both Dems and Rinos called him the ‘expert’. THEY Never looked into or cared about his HIV HORROR STORIES. They were busy planning Trump’s ouster. And Faucet was part of it.

Trump wanted the new COVID-19 vaccine to be voluntary and well-tested.
Not the horror Biden supported.

No jabs, no Covid, and masks are only useful for surgeons. Surgical gloves made more sense. As everything gets touched. 6 ft is how far a sneeze goes. Magazines, Every Doctor’s office, hospital, any office has them, even my Beauty shop does. Every food item is handled.


102 posted on 10/15/2023 10:02:45 AM PDT by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: thegagline
"How much did Robert F Kennedy donate to Hillary?"

Well, he didn't donate shit because he's dead, you stupid moRonlim.

Meanwhile, in 2016, RFKjr put the entire weight of his National Resources Defense Council and the NRDC Action Fund behind Hillary Clinton.

This was illegal dark money from a 501(c)(3) that is of a dollar amount higher than you can count even if your took off your shoes and socks and counted your 11 toes.

103 posted on 10/15/2023 10:39:27 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: Soul of the South

“It only takes fraud in less than 10 counties nationally in swing states to ensure a Biden victory.”

Yep.

The fix may already be in. Sadly.


104 posted on 10/15/2023 10:42:15 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Dr. Franklin
We have a ruling class that knows how to remain in power through divide and conquer tactics.

I disagree in part.

The Democrats (part of the ruling class) are great at fanning the flames of division, but they didn't create those divisions. They are not masterminds. In fact, they are mostly incompetent.

If you study the Marxist indoctrination of the black community, you will see how and why divisions were created. The Marxists (Comintern, in this case) were and are masterminds (see this, American Spectator "How Marxists Exploit Race: We saw it in the 1930s. And on a larger scale, we’re seeing it now.").

You are giving undeserved credit to a bunch of idiot Democrats...and they didn't earn it.

It has only been since Obama rose on the scene that the Radical Left (Marxists) has completely taken over the Democrat Party.

The divisions in America took a long time to develop and there is an amazing history of behind the scenes work by Marxists. Years and years of careful work.

The former Democrats didn't do that work, but in the end, the Democrat Party was subsumed by the group that DID do that work.

105 posted on 10/15/2023 11:33:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Dr. Franklin
You are confusing the greedy opportunists (i.e., the Democrats) with the true revolutionaries who did the planning and laid the groundwork (the Marxists).

The Democrats are nothing but a bunch of bumbling but venal useful idiots.

106 posted on 10/15/2023 11:38:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: StAnDeliver
Well, he didn't donate shit because he's dead, you stupid moRonlim. Meanwhile, in 2016, RFKjr put the entire weight of his National Resources Defense Council and the NRDC Action Fund behind Hillary Clinton.

1. If doesn’t change the fact that Trump gave 12 donations to Hillary for a total of $16,500

2. Kennedy isn’t associated with the “National Resources Defense Council” as you claim.

3. The inane drivel that you incessantly spout detracts from this forum. Get help and stay away from sharp objects. I will no longer acknowledge your pathetic existence.

107 posted on 10/15/2023 12:44:39 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: exDemMom
“He who would kill you would first lie to you’’.

This Kennedy is no different from the rest of that degenerate bunch of Kennedys who never did a damn bit of good for this nation.

108 posted on 10/15/2023 1:47:10 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: fireman15

RE:I am not sure who RFK is “dazzlingly attractive to” and his vocal problem make him excruciating to listen to.
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Fully agree. The hesitation, stopping and starting again and the gravelly sound are upsetting.

As to moving from Trump supporter to his side? It ain’t me, babe.

But “No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.”

Still think he’ll get money and some votes.


109 posted on 10/15/2023 4:29:55 PM PDT by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: frank ballenger

“Either RFK Jr. as VP or throwing his support to one of them.”

Trump offering the VP slot to Kennedy, or at the very least offering him the HHS Secretary position would cause all sorts of liberal, deep state, and big pharma heads to explode.


110 posted on 10/15/2023 5:48:02 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

If Trump does that, and RFK gets a wide audience…the GOP will run away from him as fast as they can…along with all of their money.

RFK makes Biden’s liberalism look tame.

And really, he is going to be 70 by Election Day. Do we need another geriatric running the country? And now our choice is between 3 of them.

No thanks.


111 posted on 10/15/2023 5:53:16 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: catnipman
only those who HATE biden and HATE trump AND are quite happy with the status quo

Are there any people who hate Biden yet are happy with the status quo?

112 posted on 10/15/2023 6:49:58 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97
the 2024 race between Donald Trump and Joe Biden

The imaginary race, you mean.

113 posted on 10/15/2023 6:52:48 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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To: GailA
Trump wanted the new COVID-19 vaccine to be voluntary and well-tested.

Trump wanted the vaccine approved before the election, tested or not.

114 posted on 10/15/2023 7:04:37 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Vermont Lt

The gop never truly supported Trump.


115 posted on 10/15/2023 7:10:20 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: Vermont Lt
If Trump does that, and RFK gets a wide audience…the GOP will run away from him as fast as they can…along with all of their money.

The GOP ran away from Trump in 2016, and Trump still won (largely because the GOP did run away).

Trump won by appealing to populists, nationalists, and protectionists. Trump called his movement "conservative," but it really wasn't. Which was a good thing.

The conservatism of Reagan and Limbaugh were good for their time, but new problems call for new solutions.

116 posted on 10/15/2023 7:12:35 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: abbastanza
Ross Perot ran as a third Party candidate against Bush and Clinton which caused Clinton to win two terms. This is not good for Trump.

The Trump campaign would need to figure out the profile of people who were switching from him to Kennedy. Chances are many of them would be turned off by Kennedy's anti-carbon fuel positions. Portray Kennedy and Biden as having the same anti-oil, anti-coal positions on energy. Then attack on Kennedy about that.

117 posted on 10/15/2023 8:53:57 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: Angelino97

Just wait until the opposition research on Kennedy really gets started. No one has really started yet because they were letting Democrats deal with him.


118 posted on 10/16/2023 4:58:22 AM PDT by Eva (…)
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