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New York Refuses To Give More Money For Offshore Wind Projects As Cheap "Green" Myth Implodes
Oil Price ^ | 10/14/23 | Irina Slav

Posted on 10/14/2023 4:59:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The New York state authorities have rejected a request by Orsted, BP, and Equinor for raising the price of electricity in future power purchase contracts featuring offshore wind energy.

Offshore wind developers have been pressured by rising raw material and component costs, and higher borrowing costs, which has cast doubt over the viability of many projects. Indeed, Reuters reported that some projects planned for the waters off the coast of New York may need to be reconsidered in light of the authorities’ decision.

"Sunrise Wind's viability and therefore ability to be constructed are extremely challenged without this adjustment," Orsted told Reuters.

Sunrise Wind is an offshore project with a planned capacity of 924 MW that could supply electricity to 600,000 households. According to Orsted, it would also involve several hundred million dollars in investments in the state and 800 jobs.

"These projects must be financially sustainable to proceed," the president of Equinor Renewables Americas told Reuters, referring to the offshore wind projects the Norwegian energy major is leading in the U.S.

Per Reuters, Equinor is involved in three projects with BP—the 816 MW Empire Wind 1 and the 1.26 GW Empire Wind 2, as well as the Beacon Wind farm, with a projected capacity of 1.23 GW.

Indeed, rising costs have compromised the financial sustainability of many wind power projects and earlier this year led to the cancellation of a large-scale one off the coast of the UK.

Swedish Vattenfall, which led the Norfolk Boreas project, said it would quit it after it saw costs rise by 40%, which made the project unviable.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: climatechange; greenenergy; newyork
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1 posted on 10/14/2023 4:59:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“924 MW”

That is ONE nuclear or coal generating UNIT. A power plant often has three or four such units for a total of 3,000 to 4,000 MW. In a footprint 3% of the wind footprint. And terrestrial power can be dispatched when needed (i.e., ramped up and down) and doesn’t kill whales or raptors.


2 posted on 10/14/2023 5:02:05 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If you go nuclear, you cant have African kids mining for cobalt.


3 posted on 10/14/2023 5:03:29 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“800 jobs”

You get LOTS of jobs when things are unreliable and break all the time.


4 posted on 10/14/2023 5:06:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Jonty30

Our people in power are idiots.


5 posted on 10/14/2023 5:06:58 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: Jonty30

We can put ‘em to work mining uranium, instead.


6 posted on 10/14/2023 5:10:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Right. I wouldnt want to make them unemployed.


7 posted on 10/14/2023 5:11:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks for the info on MW’s and crunching numbers. They’re trying to do that out here in NorCal.


8 posted on 10/14/2023 5:20:18 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Osage Orange
Our people in power are idiots.

Yes. It is an unbelievably dense mixture of '60s and '70s "activists," their indoctrinated and Ritalined kids, and their Ativaned and dumbed-down grandkids, all working for an outmoded "agenda" which is pretty much contained in a week of 1971 All in the Family reruns.

America has never faced a more idiotic and yet dangerous threat. If the Leftist bought-and-paid-for media didn't keep propping these people up, they'd be only a minor irritant in the lives of the rest of us.

9 posted on 10/14/2023 5:29:19 PM PDT by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind

All of the birds thank them.


10 posted on 10/14/2023 5:58:36 PM PDT by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: JennysCool
All in the Family reruns.

Never watched.....well I say never....I did a couple times... And never did again.

America has never faced a more idiotic and yet dangerous threat. If the Leftist bought-and-paid-for media didn't keep propping these people up, they'd be only a minor irritant in the lives of the rest of us.

It's an embarrassment....And I know people and co=workers that ARE CLUELESS.

11 posted on 10/14/2023 6:02:14 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: Mark
So do the whales....and bats, and butterflies

Did you know....the Osage Tribe has some exemption...to how many Bald Eagles they can kill.????? Dead eagles for $$$$$

I live in Osage Co. and I have seen Bald Eagles up close.

12 posted on 10/14/2023 6:07:26 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: Osage Orange
All in the Family reruns not required. Just look back at the 1970s and see what they were bleating about: Racism, sexism, the environment, gay rights, black "liberation," etc. etc. etc. They're still singing exactly the same tune, 50 years later. Their "causes" are antiquated, but they'll still keep pushing them, especially if there's still money to be had.
13 posted on 10/14/2023 6:15:44 PM PDT by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: JennysCool

You are right


14 posted on 10/14/2023 8:09:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: SeekAndFind
as well as the Beacon Wind farm, with a projected capacity of 1.23 GW

That’s little more than one lighting strike, which as we all know is 1.21 GW of power.

15 posted on 10/14/2023 9:01:17 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cheap renewals are expensive!


16 posted on 10/14/2023 9:37:45 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That 924mw is capacity.

They’d be lucky if they could get a third of that in actual production, And that production would be random, not when you need it.

It’s a total fiasco.


17 posted on 10/14/2023 9:43:11 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Osage Orange

“Our people in power are idiots.”

I think you meant to say, “the people that choose who to put in power are idiots”

No arguments there.


18 posted on 10/14/2023 9:46:30 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: SeekAndFind

I was thinking the other day about Rockefeller and Standard Oil Company. Before petroleum and electricity, wasn’t there a huge business in whale oil? Just how many millions of whales did Rockefeller and others save developing petroleum?

Now, only with subsidies, do wind power companies build massive Cuisinarts that destroy thousands of birds.


19 posted on 10/14/2023 9:53:01 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: aquila48

Yep. Good point. The 924 is nameplate rating. Wind turbines have a typical capacity factor of about 28%, slightly higher for offshore. The CF for big baseload and nuclear units is 70% to 80%.

So you need to build about 3X more capacity to get the same energy out over a year’s time.

Of course, you can’t tolerate not having energy, so every MW of wind has to be backed up by a MW from fossil or nuclear. At least until we have viable utility-scale storage which is a technical impossibility.


20 posted on 10/14/2023 10:33:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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