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Australia votes in nation-defining poll
BBC ^ | Oct 13 | BBC

Posted on 10/13/2023 6:11:54 PM PDT by RandFan

Yes or No. That is the choice Australia faces as polls have opened in what is seen as a nation-defining referendum.

A Yes vote will recognise Indigenous peoples in the country's constitution and establish a body - called the Voice - for them to advise governments on the issues affecting their communities.

A No outcome will reject both reforms.

The historic vote has exposed uncomfortable fault lines, and raised questions over Australia's ability to reckon with its past.

Some of the most painful chapters include massacres against Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and the forced removal of their children.

At the heart of this referendum is a decades-long debate that has gripped Australia over how to close the gap on the glaring disparities Indigenous communities experience in areas such as health, wealth and education.

The Voice is designed to be the first step in a three-part reform process - which would involve treaty negotiations and a period of national "truth-telling"- aimed at sparking change.

It was born out of the Uluru Statement from the Heart, a 2017 document drafted by over 250 First Nations leaders.

But since Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people make up less than 4% of Australia's population, it will be non-Indigenous voters who decide the outcome of the referendum.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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Had no idea the Aussies were voting on this... Interesting.
1 posted on 10/13/2023 6:11:54 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
The Voice is designed to be the first step in a three-part reform process

Is the issuing of casino licenses step 2 or 3? (I guess that would be lisenses?)

2 posted on 10/13/2023 6:14:36 PM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: RandFan

Hustlers worming their way in?


3 posted on 10/13/2023 6:18:22 PM PDT by MrHead (Time is up, it's every man for himself.)
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To: MrHead

I think you could be right


4 posted on 10/13/2023 6:19:37 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: MrHead

Establishing a body called “the voice” for a specific group wreaks of leftist nonsense


5 posted on 10/13/2023 6:20:28 PM PDT by RandFan
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Seems to me that if they’re able to vote...which I assume is the case...they already have a “voice”.


6 posted on 10/13/2023 6:27:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: Banana Republic)
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To: RandFan

The Aussie Govt has that in their lefty majority so it all fits


7 posted on 10/13/2023 6:28:52 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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Here come the carpetbaggers.


8 posted on 10/13/2023 6:43:19 PM PDT by Lou Foxwell (It takes a uniquely Marxist mind to deny Trump's call to patriotism.)
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To: RandFan

See Bureau of Indian Affairs if you want to know what this is about. The aborigines are about to be law-faired. It’ll all be legal of course. They are as good as dead.


9 posted on 10/13/2023 6:56:43 PM PDT by rootntootn (Fact check = misinformation )
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Learn from the USA, and see how well/badly it has worked out for the USA to have a “sovereign nation” within another sovereign nation, with higher privileges and different laws.


10 posted on 10/13/2023 7:05:07 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Democracy dies when you take away from those who work and give to those who won't. Khrushchev.)
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The polling is overwhelmingly No. So unless there is massive fraud, this thing will be defeated.

Elites never learn on polling. They think that their push polls and wokeness affirming agendas at the start of a campaign determine the outcome.

But the Canadian Charlottetown referendum, Maastricht Treaty votes, Brexit, once they allow referendums, they lose.

Next time they do this in Australia, elites will just jam it through without a vote.


11 posted on 10/13/2023 7:28:54 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Virgin Atlantic… you mean this tool?

Always makes me think of this guy:


12 posted on 10/13/2023 7:40:24 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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Everyone is equal but some are more equal than others.


13 posted on 10/13/2023 7:46:56 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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I really wanted to move to Aus after seeing it in ‘96.
Its a shame what they have done to their country.


14 posted on 10/13/2023 8:22:45 PM PDT by Zathras
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Yeah, it’s been all over You Tube.


15 posted on 10/13/2023 11:21:16 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: RandFan; Bernard; MrHead; Gay State Conservative; BigEdLB; Lou Foxwell; rootntootn; ...

90 minutes after polls closed in the eastern states - they are still open in the west - it is clear that the referendum has failed, and Australia will not be enshrining special rights for indigenous people into the constitution over and above those all Australians enjoy.

This is a significant victory for conservatism in Australia.

The final result isn’t known but it is now mathematically impossible for the Yes case to succeed, and it’s looking like a landslide for No.


16 posted on 10/14/2023 1:37:39 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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I knew my gut reaction was right.

Many thanks for the update


17 posted on 10/14/2023 2:07:00 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: naturalman1975
IIRC the eastern states are the most heavily populated so it seems like it's a done deal.

Being a Yank my opinion obviously doesn't mean much but it seems to me that the "indigenous" people of Australia deserve no more...and no less...of a voice than people whose ancestry goes back to Europe,Asia or elsewhere.

Just sayin'...

18 posted on 10/14/2023 4:57:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: Banana Republic)
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