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Kevin McCarthy's run as Speaker is finished. Is Matt Gaetz a villain or a hero?
Fox News ^ | 10/4/2023 | Liz Peek

Posted on 10/04/2023 5:56:17 AM PDT by randita

Is Matt Gaetz a hero or a villain?

The camera-loving Republican from Florida who threatened to shut down the government and who masterminded the ousting of Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Tuesday has made more than a few enemies in Congress.

He doesn’t care; he represents a district in Florida that hasn’t gone Democrat in decades and that went for former President Trump in 2020 by 68% to 29%. That means that in 2018, for instance, election gurus gave him 99% odds of being reelected, even though his approval rating was a dismal 20% -- worse than Joe Biden.

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To: hcmama

That’s funny. Save your sympathy for the “centrists” who are going to have to defend why they went along with McCarthy working as a Demoncrat enabler and making backroom deals that stripped power from the Republican caucus. That is what their constituents are going to want to know. If they don’t have decent answers they will be primaried from the right.


61 posted on 10/04/2023 6:34:05 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: hcmama

That’s funny. Save your sympathy for the “centrists” who are going to have to defend why they went along with McCarthy working as a Demoncrat enabler and making backroom deals that stripped power from the Republican caucus. That is what their constituents are going to want to know. If they don’t have decent answers they will be primaried from the right.


62 posted on 10/04/2023 6:34:06 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: Lakeside Granny

“He agreed to that as the 20 MAGA pubbies had him over a barrel and he wanted the Speakership at any cost.

Well, it sure cost him but he should have kept his word and he would still be Speaker.”

Ahh, so nice when a person injects common sense and clarity to a situation.

These people are so used to breaking their word and commencing with no consequences. I was still waiting for the J6 Capitol videos he promised and never delivered. It would have been so easy to do so. Shows you how he was answering to a different drummer than the voters.

That woman with the office in the Capitol bldg who just got kicked out it was still running things. That is why she still had that office.


63 posted on 10/04/2023 6:35:32 AM PDT by dforest
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To: BlackAdderess
He’s a loose cannon

McCarthy entered into an agreement with the GOP caucus which included a vacate the chair provision if McCarthy did not fulfill his end of the agreement. McCarthy chose not to.

How is Gaetz a "loose cannon"??

64 posted on 10/04/2023 6:36:33 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: txlurker

Then they promised no more omnibus bills and they would get spending bills done on time. How has that worked out so far?


65 posted on 10/04/2023 6:38:17 AM PDT by pas
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To: Ken522

Gaetz=champion of America


66 posted on 10/04/2023 6:38:29 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Macoozie

Rep. Matt Gaetz
@RepMattGaetz

I don’t think voting against @SpeakerMcCarthy is chaos.

I think $33 Trillion in debt is chaos.

I think not passing single-subject spending bills is chaos.

I think being governed by continuing resolutions and omnibus bills is chaos.

Chaos is somebody we cannot trust with their word.

That’s why I’ve moved to vacate the chair.

3:15 PM · Oct 3, 2023


67 posted on 10/04/2023 6:39:27 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I guess “loose cannons” are people who refuse to enable GOP assistance to the democrat party.


68 posted on 10/04/2023 6:39:36 AM PDT by dforest
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To: JayGalt
"That’s funny. Save your sympathy for the “centrists” who are going to have to defend why they went along with McCarthy working as a Demoncrat enabler and making backroom deals that stripped power from the Republican caucus."

LOLOLOL!!

Imagine saying this after Gaetz and his little Gang of Seven backstab 208 of his GOP colleagues including Thomas Massie, Chip Roy, and Jim Jordan to connive with Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi to oust the Republican Speaker.

69 posted on 10/04/2023 6:40:12 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: Safrguns
"Obviously I didn’t hear it right... it was 16 republicans plus 200 democrats that removed him."

Only 8 Republicans.

One of them was that ditz Nancy Mace who suggested that McCarthy wasn't doing enough to support abortion rights

70 posted on 10/04/2023 6:42:36 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: hcmama

Imagine seeing the world that way. Taking out a demoncrat ally who pushed the can down the road & gave the left all they wanted is conniving with the left. You have a talent for gaslighting.


71 posted on 10/04/2023 6:43:33 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: FreedomPoster

villain, costing the House 2024, maybe Senate - as public sees children running amok with no plans except vengeance and tv face time, making Dems the adults.

Congratulations!


72 posted on 10/04/2023 6:44:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Macoozie
Gaetz wants Regular Order, no more Omnibus. We’re still running CR’s off of the last regular budget passed in . . . get this . . . by Bush W just before Odumbo got in back in 2008.

With the extra 1 Trillion “Destroy Capitalism to Save It” cash. Debate and vote on Separate Bills. Ukraine Cash is big issue that needs to be SEPARATE from everything else. Voters don’t want it. Deep State wants it to continue.

FIGHT the Dems, not roll over like a dog and agree to what they want, like the last of the Young Guns has finally learned.

👍 👍

73 posted on 10/04/2023 6:44:44 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: randita

Hero. MAGA has a voice. The lesson here is, stop working against MAGA, stop attacking MAGA.


74 posted on 10/04/2023 6:44:52 AM PDT by Skul
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To: fruser1

“Unfortunately, the only way to get congressmen out of this “default” position is to shutdown the government and not blink until a reduction is achieved.”

Or until the Rats win control of the House again in the next election - which like it or not, will most likely be the case, especially since the Republicans will get blamed for the shutdown.


75 posted on 10/04/2023 6:45:39 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48
"He’s our AOC."

And he's like a brother to Ilhan Omar:


76 posted on 10/04/2023 6:46:11 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: carcraft

Your criticism should be re-directed. To McCarthy. It was more important that he kept reminding himself this could happen, that he must have a plan to lead, not lose his position and keep the GOP together. He failed the party by not having the plan that you assign responsibility to Gaetz.

But if Gaetz had a plan, then I would predict you and many others would put forth another straw man proposition - how bad, unrealistic, unworkable the Gaetz plan would be. McCarthy has only himself to blame for his poor leadership at a critical time.


77 posted on 10/04/2023 6:51:01 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: randita

If Gowdy hates this, and Newt hates this, and the GOPe hates this, I am 100% on board.

If the house can’t figure out a way to shut down this border thru the power of the purse, then they are worthless imho.

And that’s just table stakes.

Listen to Biggs 7 minute floor speech, that tells me all I need to know.


78 posted on 10/04/2023 6:51:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: randita

They were worthless anyway.


79 posted on 10/04/2023 6:51:32 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: dforest
"I guess “loose cannons” are people who refuse to enable GOP assistance to the democrat party.

McCarthy's allegiance was to the Uniparty --- and he never believed anyone could or would stop him.

80 posted on 10/04/2023 6:52:05 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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