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Russia blasts Canada over 'outrageous' reception in Parliament for Ukrainian who served in Nazi unit
CBC ^ | Sep 26 | Thomson Reuters ·

Posted on 09/26/2023 2:51:50 AM PDT by RandFan

The Kremlin said on Monday it was "outrageous" that a Ukrainian man who served in one of Adolf Hitler's Waffen SS units during the Second World War had been presented to Canada's Parliament last week as a hero.

Yaroslav Hunka, 98, received two standing ovations from Canadian lawmakers during a visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. The speaker of Canada's Parliament has since apologized to Jewish groups for the incident.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said the episode showed a careless disregard for historical truth, and that the memory of Nazi crimes must be preserved.

"Such sloppiness of memory is outrageous," Peskov told reporters. "Many Western countries, including Canada, have raised a young generation that does not know who fought whom or what happened during the Second World War. And they know nothing about the threat of fascism."

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1 posted on 09/26/2023 2:51:50 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Apparently according to an idiot, opposing a bonafide WWII Nazi is supporting Nazis.
Heard it earlier this morning.


2 posted on 09/26/2023 3:02:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: RandFan

Everyone who supports Zelensky and his pervert globalist dictatorship, raise your right hand.

3 posted on 09/26/2023 3:05:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: RandFan
Let's not forget history...

The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact... It happened...

And Poland suffered.

4 posted on 09/26/2023 3:26:28 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: jerod

Throw that on the pile of reasons why we don’t want any damn thing to do with European squabbles.


5 posted on 09/26/2023 3:28:23 AM PDT by Segovia
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To: jerod

And let’s not forget that the Waffen SS was the atrocity arm of the Wehrmacht.


6 posted on 09/26/2023 3:28:25 AM PDT by MMusson
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To: RandFan

As is evident in the policies and military and intelligence community arms of this USA administration and the UN and the WHO and the same is occurring in the UK, France and Australia, that Peskov is correct in his statement from the article:

Peskov told reporters that Russia was waging an “irreconcilable fight” against fascism that was “trying to find its feet in the centre of Europe, in Ukraine.”


7 posted on 09/26/2023 3:47:36 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: RandFan

Whatever you think of the Russians, what this guy says is correct, I don’t know this for a fact, is WW II history including all the atrocities taught in public schools today.

A complete history of the war, including what happened on the Eastern Front and who was actually fighting who.

Something tells me the complete history of WW II is not taught in any great detail in public schools today, in Russia it’s probably taught and taught continually.

In Canada’s case, a simple 5 minute google search would have been enough to find out who this guy was and what he did during WW II, he was not trying to hide the truth, he volunteered for the Waffen SS, traveled to Germany for training and took part in fighting against Russia.

When you describe a person as a Freedom Fighter for Ukraine against the Russians in WW II, even with a cursory knowledge of WW II should have been enough to know, if this guy was fighting against Russia, who was he fighting for, the only other army on the Eastern Front was Germany, including the Waffen SS.


8 posted on 09/26/2023 3:50:35 AM PDT by srmanuel
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Yaroslav Hunka -

Within limitations of the Internet, nothing places Yaroslav Hunka in military service active in Poland, nor in the Second Polish Republic territory, nor in Ukraine.

History of the formation of the 14th Waffen SS aka 1st Galacian division is online - its development and formation (1943), its initial deployment in the winter of 1944, and major combat, about 30% surviving Russian attacks during the summer of 1944, may be studied.

The division was reformed in the second half of the 1944 summer, followed by service in Slovakia, Slovenia, and Austria.

Yaroslav Hunka volunteered to join up, in 1944, when he was 18-19 years old.

Survivors - captured by American and British troops, were handed over to Polish military authority and operations in Italy.

War crimes investigations followed, there, and under Allied Authority, and for the Nuremburg Trials, and by Canada - and again by Canada in 1985.

At: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)

Scroll down to "Atrocities" - EXCERPT:

Although the Waffen-SS as a whole was declared to be a criminal organization at the Nuremberg Trials, the Galician Division has not specifically been found guilty of any war crimes by any war tribunal or commission. However, numerous accusations of impropriety have been leveled at the division, and at particular members of the division, from a variety of sources. It is difficult to determine the extent of war criminality among members of the division.

If prior service in Nazi police units is a measure of criminality, only a small number were recruited from established police detachments. Among those who had transferred from police detachments, some had been members of a coastal defence unit that had been stationed in France, while others came from two police battalions that had been formed in the spring of 1943, too late to have participated in the murder of Ukraine's Jews.


9 posted on 09/26/2023 3:56:36 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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I have a couple of Jewish friends in the U.S. who were born and raised in Canada. What’s comical about this Ukrainian Nazi flap in Trudeau’s government is that both of them came from families that fled from Montreal to Toronto as a result of growing anti-Semitic hostility in Quebec.

I’m not joking when I point out that Canada has a Nazi government.

10 posted on 09/26/2023 4:09:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m not doubting you at all, how Trudeau handled the trucker strike should send shivers down the spine of any patriotic Canadian.

The funny as in crazy part is the Canadian Government is so invested in supporting Ukraine, when they heard a true Ukrainian Freedom Fighter from WW II was alive and a Canadian Citizen, they could not resist and brought him to Parliament for a public spectacle of making the guy a hero without conducting any due diligence.


11 posted on 09/26/2023 4:16:37 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m not doubting you at all, how Trudeau handled the trucker strike should send shivers down the spine of any patriotic Canadian.

The funny as in crazy part is the Canadian Government is so invested in supporting Ukraine, when they heard a true Ukrainian Freedom Fighter from WW II was alive and a Canadian Citizen, they could not resist and brought him to Parliament for a public spectacle of making the guy a hero without conducting any due diligence.


12 posted on 09/26/2023 4:16:37 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: RandFan

They went crazy back in 1985, anyone remember Bonzo goes to Bitburg?


13 posted on 09/26/2023 4:29:47 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: RandFan

“And they know nothing about the threat of fascism.”

During WWII, the allies had a problem with what to call the axis powers. It was decided to call them “fascists.” However, the word fascist doesn’t mean the same thing as “Nazism”.

Both are national socialist, which means extensive control of the economy combined with nominal private ownership of property. You could say that Russia today is fascist, and that China today combines fascism with communism. The difference between fascism and Nazism was that Nazism combined racism with fascism.

Italy under Mussolini wasn’t racist, but was (merely) fascist. Ditto fascism throughout the Catholic world (e.g., Spain and Argentina). Mussolini himself had a Jewish mistress; and, Italian Jews could be and many were members of Mussolini’s fascist party.

True, once Italy aligned with Hitler’s Germany, Italy drifted into anti-Semitism. The Holocaust Museum describes this drift. Even so, Italy never had the kind of death camps associated with Hitler’s Germany. Italian citizen Jews were barred from certain occupations, but weren’t sent to internment camps; and, foreign national Jews were removed to internment camps, where they “lived under bearable conditions: families stayed together and the camps provided schools, cultural activities, and social events.”

The Nazis made a really big mistake being racist in Ukraine (the Nazis were racist against Slavs and Africans as well as against Jews). If the Nazis could have somehow discovered that Ukrainians were partly Germanic or Nordic, as they did the with certain other peoples, they could have raised many more fighters and workers from among Ukrainians. As it is, they still were able to recruit two fighting divisions, and perhaps a total of 250,000 police and auxiliaries. Imagine if the Nazis had recruited a million Ukrainians!

But, fortunately in a sense, the Nazis were irretrievably racist and, furthermore, following Hitler’s book Mein Kampf (My Struggle), the Nazis were specifically out to steal the land and mineral resources of Ukraine and the Caucuses.

Today, Germany is a democratic country that engages in international trade, and doesn’t need to be self-sufficient in grain and mineral resources (Hitler’s policy of lebensraum). Germany can focus on its strengths, including in manufacturing, and import from the strengths of others. With this economic policy, it is easy to see other people not as enemies but as partners in trade and other relations, maybe even to become friends.

International trade is not the same as no borders. A country like Hungary, being the homeland of a distinct people, can keep its language and culture, while engaging in trade. We, the U.S., a great country, can regulate the number and qualifications of immigrants, so we keep our language and have our culture change slowly enough that our people aren’t threatened. Also, economically, that our system of social insurance isn’t swamped by poor immigrants who never paid-in.


14 posted on 09/26/2023 4:45:42 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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“the Nazis were specifically out to steal the land and mineral resources of Ukraine and the Caucuses”

bkmk


15 posted on 09/26/2023 4:48:18 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

Yep


16 posted on 09/26/2023 4:56:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: RandFan

Canadians don’t actually like Nazis. They just believe in all power to the Central Party - oh, Huston, we have a problem.


17 posted on 09/26/2023 5:32:40 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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The speaker of Canada's Parliament has since apologized to Jewish groups for the incident.

It's not just Jews they should applogize to. Waffen-SS scumbags murdered U.S. POWs too...84 in one incident during the Battle of the Bulge (Malmedy massacre ).

18 posted on 09/26/2023 6:26:19 AM PDT by montag813
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“Something tells me the complete history of WW II is not taught in any great detail in public schools today, in Russia it’s probably taught and taught continually.”

Yes, like most non-Western countries, Russia does teach history, and it’s a lot to learn there, as they also cover the horrors of Communism and Fascism. The West doesn’t teach history, which is why the home to Communism/Fascism has moved to our society - as we see in DC and their support of the Nazi infestation in Kiev and Canada.


19 posted on 09/26/2023 6:57:19 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: BobL

When I was in High Schoolin Florida during late 1970s, we were required to take a class called Americanism vs. Communism, it taught us about evils of communism versus freedom and capitalism.

That is a distant memory for Florida High School students.


20 posted on 09/26/2023 7:10:14 AM PDT by srmanuel
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