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To: Mariner
There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore

There never was a Ukrainian offensive. It was just a waste of weapons and money on a corrupt nation where America had and still has no national interest.

Character and principles matter. Who here admires Zelensky? BIden? Any of the Joint Chiefs? Linda Graham? Mitch McConnel? Schumer? McCarthy? All the Democrats in Congress? Those are some of the people who want to lead us into WW III.

I do not follow those that I have zero respect. I’m am able to objectively see the results of what they have done. There is zero success.

I refuse to be fooled twice. The WMD argument for the war in Iraq was the last straw. We lose every forever war because we have clueless, liars leading. The result is we are deeper in debt, less secure and progressively lose our rights. The real enemy of America can be identified by one thing: support for Ukraine. They are just retreads of neocon warmongers of the past. It’s even more hideous when some were the neocon warmongers of the past.

20 posted on 09/24/2023 9:53:35 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Vacate the chair. Shutter the government until it can be correctly defunded.)
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To: ConservativeInPA; All

“I refuse to be fooled twice. The WMD argument for the war in Iraq was the last straw. We lose every forever war because we have clueless, liars leading. “


+1 000 000 !


22 posted on 09/24/2023 10:00:33 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ConservativeInPA
I refuse to be fooled twice. The WMD argument for the war in Iraq was the last straw. We lose every forever war because we have clueless, liars leading.

They are so clueless they fight wars where there is no possibility of winning because there is no idea what winning would look like. It's like dropping nukes in a desert. You make a crater which pales in size to the the craters and mountains God littered the landscape with. The desert will survive and barely remember the insult you attempted to deliver.

43 posted on 09/24/2023 10:38:09 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ConservativeInPA
There never was a Ukrainian offensive.

So the Russians have just been killing themselves?


86 posted on 09/24/2023 12:59:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ConservativeInPA

Technically speaking it’s impossible for Ukraine to do an offensive, since Ukraine is the victim of RUSSIA’S offensive.

Ukraine is not trying to take Russia, thus there is no offensive going on from Ukraine. Evidently.

However, Ukraine’s DEFENSIVE actions to retake their own territories (momentary stolen by Russia) is in full swing!

Crimea is being severely beaten by Ukraine right now.
Russia just lost its huge naval headquarters complex in Sevastopol. A massive building. The russian Admiral is supposed to have died in that Ukrainian attack.

Russia is losing ships, submarines, billion-dollar S-400 systems on a regular basis now (I would say weekly). Russia has also lost more than 4000 tanks, scores of helicopters, advanced planes...

I don’t call all that an “offensive”, it’s called defensive operations!


115 posted on 09/24/2023 2:21:35 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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