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To: entropy12

American voters are outnumbered.


4 posted on 09/20/2023 7:10:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Try That In A Small Town" - Jason Aldean rules!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think in today’s world, best way to win elections is not give young women incentive to vote. Usually they do not vote in large numbers. But when they hear about abortion restrictions, they come out of the woodwork to vote, as stats show what happened in 2022 mid-terms. Pro-life agenda will not advance by losing elections.


9 posted on 09/20/2023 7:17:12 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trumpcrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You got it. Thank Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 opening of the floodgates to foreign invaders, along with the Bush / Clinton / Obama crime families allowing invasion of our borders.


14 posted on 09/20/2023 7:18:55 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Only by fake voters.


22 posted on 09/20/2023 7:21:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I posted this to a different thread in an attempt to summarize the problem in a pithy manner.

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Sixty years ago a sexual revolution swept America. It was a result of the Baby Boomers reaching puberty at the same time. By the late 1960s, American sexual behavior was similar to France or Sweden.

The battle over abortion started in states where legislatures, fearing the power of the churches, handed the issue to the people via referendum. The voters spoke, and abortion restrictions fell in state after state via the initiative and referendum mechanisms.

The battle royale was New York state where it had to be fought in the legislature. New York doesn't use the initiative mechanism and only uses the referendum mechanism for bond issues. This was a knock-down drag-out brawl that played out at family dinner tables. The legislature loosened restrictions, and Gov. Rockefeller signed the law. Abortion opponents threatened consequences at the next election but only showed how toothless they were when nothing happened.

The US Supreme Court should have stayed out of it by refusing to accept Roe v. Wade and punting it back to the Texas courts. But having created a national right to abortion, two generations of women came to believe they possessed that right. Men and women were glad to have abortion as a backstop for sexual freedom. Having experienced sexual freedom, people are loathe to give it up, so you need to have a good reason to take away what people perceive to be their right.

The key arguments against abortion are based on religion. Catholics used to be the largest faith in America, but now Unbelief has replaced them as Number One. Unbelief is also the fastest growing "religion" in America. For many, God the Hairy Thunderer has been replaced by God the Cosmic Muffin. It’s hard to make an effective religious argument when so many have put religion aside for a secular or somewhat “spiritual” approach.

To really end abortion, you need to convince people to end sexual freedom, erase the 1960s and return to an earlier frame of morality. That’s a hard sell. Once the cat is out of the bag, as a rule it doesn't want to go back in.

65 posted on 09/20/2023 8:18:51 PM PDT by Publius
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