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Another data point proving that putin's lies about invading Ukraine to stop threat of NATO to russia is BS. He knows and everybody knows that having NATO on your border is the best guarantee you will never be invaded from that side.
1 posted on 09/17/2023 9:29:00 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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This is good news then, right? It's clear that Putin is losing and will surrender any minute now, so we can stop sending Ukraine our hard-earned tax dollars now. He's dying of cancer anyway. Right? Right?
2 posted on 09/17/2023 9:32:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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“He knows and everybody knows that having NATO on your border is the best guarantee you will never be invaded from that side.”

Given that NATO has pretty much dumped all of its ground weapons into Ukraine, you’re probably right - NATO’s now a paper tiger with nukes.


3 posted on 09/17/2023 9:32:20 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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Ok. Not falling for this swindle and if you did you are stupid.

The globohomos were not planning on breaking up Russia by invading through Norway. The well disclosed plan that Nuland and co were engaged in was to use Ukraine to isolate Russia, cut it off, break it up and take over the assets. You can’t isolate Russia through Norway.


4 posted on 09/17/2023 9:34:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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> Norwegian chief of defense claims Putin ‘knows very well’ NATO is not a threat to Russia <

I have posted on FR many times that I consider Putin to be a war criminal. I stand by that opinion.

I have also posted that NATO is no threat to Russia, as NATO is purely a defensive organization. Another Freeper then pointed out that NATO went on the offensive in Libya and in Serbia. I was wrong.

So Putin does have reason to see NATO as a threat.


5 posted on 09/17/2023 9:37:55 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Every single member of NATO has invaded Russia at one time or another. Including Greece. Including Italy. Including the United States.


9 posted on 09/17/2023 9:51:28 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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the front needs them more than the Norwegian border does...


14 posted on 09/17/2023 10:23:09 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Due to the invasion of Ukraine, Russia has been reducing its troops on the borders of Norway and Finland and also rotating them out in order to train new troops.

Earlier in the war, Russia sent many of its trainers to fight in Ukraine. This resulted in wrecking Russia's training command without producing decisive results. After that, due to a lack of trainers and material, many new Russian troops have been sent to fight without training or adequate uniforms, gear, or weapons.

In a modern NATO country, those kinds of costly and brutal expedients would generate much political grief and would not be undertaken unless the circumstances were dire. In Russia though, brutal and costly has a low threshold and there is a high tolerance by the population for casualties, economic privation, and military defeat.

18 posted on 09/17/2023 12:24:32 PM PDT by Rockingham
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