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Big Lie Two Is Here, and It’s Far More Insidious Than Big Lie One
The New Republic ^ | September 11, 2023 | Michael Tomasky

Posted on 09/11/2023 9:11:17 AM PDT by RideForever

The Big Lie, as it quickly became known, was that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election. He’s still out there peddling this nonsense, and a lot of people still believe it, though thankfully, they constitute a clear minority of voters.

But now there’s a new lie being peddled. Call it Big Lie Two. Trump has been hawking this one for a while too, but it has been, to my mind, oddly little remarked-upon. That needs to change: Big Lie Two is more (Excerpt) ...

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; demagogue; michaeltomasky; newrepublic
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To: RideForever

“$8.8 million from Zuckerberg’s Center for Tech & Civic Life (CTCL) provided to #WISCONSIN five large cities”

“the CTCL employees actually go work with the clerks’ offices and get to see information about voters that the public can’t access as easily (the public has to pay $12,500 for voter roll info, only gets a snapshot of that instant, and usually has to wait 4-5 days for it”

“if the clerks don’t comply with CTCL’s requirements, they have a huge penalty of giving money back....They were allowed to see voters who had requested ballots but hadn’t returned them, then go chase them down to get their ballots.”

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/09/08/september-8th-2023-presidential-politics-resistance-day-962/comment-page-3/#comments


41 posted on 09/11/2023 11:00:03 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Observator

“They’re not after him a they’re after us. He is only in the way”

So, so true.

And Trump is loudly and correctly proclaiming election interference on all 4 cases.

EO 13848 which just got renewed for another year outlines the punishment for election interference. This is going to be used to bring everyone of these prosecutors to trial in a military tribunal before this is all over.

Trump is not going to jail. They are. Stay tuned.


42 posted on 09/11/2023 11:05:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Amen! I believe there’s a Category 6 Storm approaching.


43 posted on 09/11/2023 11:15:26 AM PDT by Observator
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To: Rappini
"New Republic blocked my comment when I told them to watch 2000 Mules."

No surprise there. That rag and now site is as hard core leftist as it gets. They are a USA version of Pravda.

44 posted on 09/11/2023 11:16:22 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: NorthMountain

I saw the steal with my own eyes....and I have charts that prove it.


45 posted on 09/11/2023 11:17:53 AM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Osage Orange
I saw the steal with my own eyes

You're not the only one.

Can you show your charts here? Be nice to get the truth spread as widely as possible.

46 posted on 09/11/2023 11:21:15 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: FamiliarFace

Good point. I’d often reference “SARS” instead of the canonical terms.


47 posted on 09/11/2023 11:42:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Rio
I think the Democrats want Trump to be the nominee so that he will be the #1 news story in 2024 rather than Biden's failings, and they think they can beat him with all of his legal problems but are afraid someone who holds similar views to Trump's but without his baggage (7 years of non-stop negative publicity) could beat Biden easily.

There was a poll recently showing that a large part of the population thinks that Trump is corrupt. There has not been one bit of genuine evidence to support that but the media keeps bashing him so a lot of people must figure that "where there is smoke, there must be fire."

48 posted on 09/11/2023 11:48:34 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: RideForever

Michael scribbles out material for the Daily Beast. ignore it.


49 posted on 09/11/2023 11:59:04 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: RideForever
So basically they're lying about the lies that they're propagating and calling those who don't believe their lies liar and deniers.

Got it?
50 posted on 09/11/2023 12:00:10 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Reno89519

If the “party” says it is then it must be true, although we all know the democrats lie all the time.


51 posted on 09/11/2023 12:37:45 PM PDT by Ronald77
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To: RideForever

What is the purpose of posting the constant BS from idiots? Trying to raise everyone’s blood pressure? lol


52 posted on 09/11/2023 1:21:08 PM PDT by MagaMatt (Sapere aude.)
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To: Reno89519

here you go:

“But now there’s a new lie being peddled. Call it Big Lie Two. Trump has been hawking this one for a while too, but it has been, to my mind, oddly little remarked-upon. That needs to change: Big Lie Two is more insidious and dangerous than Big Lie One, for two reasons. First, it has nothing to do with the settled past, but rather with the unsettled present and future. And second, unlike Big Lie One, a majority of Americans believe it.

The lie is that the indictments against Trump represent a collective effort to stop him from running for president. Trump talks of this all the time; “election interference” is the phrase he often uses. They can’t stop me legitimately, he says—they know I won in 2020, and they know I’ll win again, so this is how they’re trying to block me.”


53 posted on 09/11/2023 2:55:00 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: RideForever

“Michael Tomasky is an American columnist, progressive commentator, and author. He is the editor of The New Republic and editor in chief of ‘Democracy’. He has been a special correspondent for Newsweek, The Daily Beast, a contributing editor for The American Prospect, and a contributor to The New York Review of Books.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Tomasky


54 posted on 09/11/2023 4:51:28 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: RideForever

Unless 2020 is “fixed” we will spend the rest of our lives, our children’s lives, and those of our grandchildren “electing” presidents just like the USSR did for 70 years

that’s The Big Truth....


55 posted on 09/11/2023 4:53:13 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanaheytion is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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