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Will DeSantis’ First GOP Primary Debate Win Change The Race?
Townhall ^ | 08/28/2023 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 08/28/2023 9:01:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The general Trumpworld consensus around last Wednesday night’s GOP primary debate, mainly as laid out by Florida Rep. Byron Donalds during Fox News post-debate analysis, seems to be that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis had a solid enough performance but failed to dominate and thus didn’t move the needle in any meaningful way.

It’s a ridiculously unfair cope, of course. In a field of eight, it’s tough to hit a home run, especially when the other candidates aren’t directly targeting you and giving you a chance to rebut anything. Which is interesting in and of itself. Of the people on that stage, DeSantis was the front-runner. As such, I thought going in that everyone would be taking shots at him. They didn’t, which means they either purposefully didn’t want him to be able to rebut anything, or they simply couldn’t think of anything of substance with which to attack. Either way, that’s good.

Still, it all resulted in a performance filled with plenty of singles, doubles, and even triples but no home runs. And that’s perfectly fine. The goal was to survive and advance at a minimum, avoid any negative headlines, and, if things went well, be able to build a case that he ‘won’ the debate. He did all those things. Even better, the case that he won was bolstered by a primary Washington Post, FiveThirtyEight, and Ipsos poll of GOP voters that declared him the winner.

As a DeSantis supporter, I’ll take that and run. It’s a great launching pad for more significant and even better things to come. Remember, this primary is just getting started, and last week represented the unofficial beginning of a grinding campaign season. We’ve got a LONG way to go until actual voting begins in Iowa, which is already polling closer than it was before the debate. And if the opinions of this Fox News focus group coming out of the critical swing state of Wisconsin are any indication, things are trending in the right direction.

Contrast that with the competing event that was supposed to dominate not just the internet, but the overall news cycle, the interview of Donald Trump conducted by Tucker Carlson. As the hours and days passed after the debate, the buzz from that softball interview seemed little to nonexistent. Other than some weird exchange about Jeffrey Epstein, do you remember anything even remotely newsworthy? I don’t, though I figured that it would be filled with plenty of the usual bitching and moaning, so many of us have grown sick and tired of.

Trump influencers on Twitter (now X, but I can barely stand to call it that), loudly proclaimed that the interview got 1,000 gazillion views or something. Except, the interview likely garnered fewer actual watchers - people who were engaged for more than a minute or two on a social media feed - than the GOP primary debate on Fox News, which actually vastly exceeded ratings expectations. I know they want to convince us that scrolling past something on one’s Twitter feed and having it play for two seconds is the same as tuning in to watch a televised event, but it’s not even remotely close. And one can hardly pin the success of the video on Trump’s popularity when much of the viewership occurred because Elon Musk shared it and posted about it several times.

Sadly, yet another Trump arrest, with a mugshot this time, ended what was the first solid news cycle for DeSantis in a long while. He’ll get the usual bump that oddly comes from stuff like that, but that could likely be Trump’s high point. From here on out, the future seems likely to be a series of bad things for the ex-president.

What does that future look like? I can give you a pretty good idea, and I don’t even need a crystal ball. Fundraising, already struggling and being diminished by overwhelmingly large legal bills, will begin to dry up. Endless court appearances will make it difficult, if not impossible, to campaign effectively. There will be a few huge rallies, but they will be carefully placed and much less regular than the last two campaign cycles. As is typical for octogenarians, Trump’s speed, wit, and overall health will continue to decline. The skip in his step is already gone, and it will only become more evident as time goes by. Finally, by the time the primaries are over and the general election campaigns begin - assuming he makes it that far - the former president will likely be a convicted felon, meaning he could be on house arrest or even in prison before November 2024.On the other end, DeSantis has plenty of upcoming opportunities to win over voters, starting with next month’s second debate and a November showdown with California Gov. Gavin Newsom. Keep doing well, and the future is bright. There is a long way to go, and by no means am I predicting a Trump primary defeat, but, as I’ve stated many times, it’s not over, and that possibility is still very much in play. And DeSantis winning the first GOP debate was a crucial first step.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; desantis; gop; guacomolemeatballs; pleaseclap; primary; scottmorefield; singledigitmidget
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1 posted on 08/28/2023 9:01:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What win? Because FOX said so? Hilarious.


2 posted on 08/28/2023 9:02:54 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes it will change the race, he’s down in the polls more than before.


3 posted on 08/28/2023 9:04:43 AM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore………)
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To: SeekAndFind

Better question is IF he gets any wins (probably not).


4 posted on 08/28/2023 9:04:48 AM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought Ramaswamy won. I guess I missed the morning talking points.


5 posted on 08/28/2023 9:05:01 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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RE: I thought Ramaswamy won.

For me, he didn’t. His foreign policy takes on Israel and Taiwan tells me he needs to rethink his stance. He’s not ready for the big time.

Maybe a stint as Congressman or Senator or a Cabinet member ( NOT IN CHARGE OF FOREIGN POLICY ) will do him some good. He ought to wait maybe another 8 years.


6 posted on 08/28/2023 9:07:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Mark Levin sums up why he believes DeSantis won the debate.

It's an excellent snippet and describes perfectly why I will continue to support Ron DeSantis until he is officially out of the race, polls be damned.

"In my humble opinion, why did Ron DeSantis win that debate?" (Twitter)

7 posted on 08/28/2023 9:08:55 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not being serious. They are all losers in my mind. I am just regurgitating what I thought I was told at the time.


8 posted on 08/28/2023 9:09:25 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: SeekAndFind
As such, I thought going in that everyone would be taking shots at him. They didn’t, which means they either purposefully didn’t want him to be able to rebut anything, or they simply couldn’t think of anything of substance with which to attack.

The author didn't consider a third (and more probable) possibility - that the other candidates aren't worried about him and ignored him. DeSantos is on a steady downward trajectory - why mess with that momentum?
9 posted on 08/28/2023 9:10:42 AM PDT by Observator
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10 posted on 08/28/2023 9:11:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Georgia just crystallized Trump’s campaign with a copyright-free image winning him nomination!))
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To: SeekAndFind
No.

Covfefe.

11 posted on 08/28/2023 9:12:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

DeSantis lost.


12 posted on 08/28/2023 9:13:12 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: SeekAndFind

good gosh, this whole who “won” the Lilliputian debate absent Gulliver is just so much poppycock for the pundit grist mills ...

the ONLY thing that matters post-debate is whether aggregate poll numbers move and by how much, if any ... all the rest is pretty much akin to debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin ...


13 posted on 08/28/2023 9:16:19 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: Drew68

Levin thought highly of Ted Cruz. How’d that work out? Levin is just part of Conservative Inc., don’t forget to buy his latest book.


14 posted on 08/28/2023 9:17:27 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind
FOX viewers:

"The gas. The gas makes it so pretty...."

15 posted on 08/28/2023 9:19:45 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Drew68

btw, i just LOVE your multitudinous posts regarding “Levin says Desantis won” ... as if the whole world is on pins and needles to decide who to vote for based on Levin’s pronouncement of a “win” ... very entertaining ....


16 posted on 08/28/2023 9:19:54 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: dforest

They will just keep repeating the lie and it becomes true


17 posted on 08/28/2023 9:22:40 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy ought to work on rebuilding his credibility and get off this RDS wagon. Republican lawyers in national politics are insufferable losers … which explains why DeSantis’ campaign has been going nowhere.


18 posted on 08/28/2023 9:25:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: Drew68

It should come as no surprise that one establishment GOP lawyer would think so highly of another.


19 posted on 08/28/2023 9:26:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


20 posted on 08/28/2023 9:29:00 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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