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Brazile says GOP may never be ‘mainstream’ again
The Hill ^ | 08/13/23 6:13 PM ET | BY OLAFIMIHAN OSHIN

Posted on 08/14/2023 12:27:04 AM PDT by RandFan

Former Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairwoman Donna Brazile said on Sunday that the GOP might not be a “mainstream” party again.

Brazile made the remark during an appearance on ABC’s “This Week, when co-anchor Jonathan Karl asked the panel for the program’s “Powerhouse Roundtable” about former President Trump’s impact at the Iowa State Fair this weekend.

“Yes. You know, Donald Trump took on the Republican establishment in 2016. And I don’t think the establishment – and maybe you know better since you understand the Republican establishment, they haven’t been able to really get their sea legs back,” Brazile told Karl. “I don’t know if the Republican Party will ever be a, quote/unquote, a mainstream party again like it was before, when you understood conservatism, conservative values.”

Brazile, who is now an ABC News contributor, also said that the former president is running his reelection campaign “on a platform of retribution,” also noting Trump’s ongoing legal issues.

“But now you have an indicted defendant out on bail who is leading the party, who is basically running on a platform of retribution, and that is going to define not just the presidential race, but I think all of the down ballot races as well,” Brazile added.

This comes as Trump was the main star attraction at the Iowa State fair, though the GOP frontrunner is facing a slew of legal battles and federal investigations against him.

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To: RandFan

She is pretty close to the idiot vp in brain capacity


41 posted on 08/14/2023 4:28:28 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: central_va

No, he really wasn’t. By 1960, he was firmly on the left of the party after running to the right of incumbent liberal Republican Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. in 1952, whom he defeated. A non-leftist has only been nominated by the Dems for President since after Grover Cleveland in 1892 just twice: in 1904 (squishy “centrist” Judge Alton B. Parker) and then not again until 1924 (former WV Congressman and Wilson Solicitor-General John W. Davis), and never after.

In fact, the leftists were so incensed at having two center-right party candidates for President (Davis vs. Pres. Coolidge), that many leftist Dems bolted for 3rd party Socialist “Progressive” RINO Wisconsin Sen. Robert La Follette, Sr. They never would allow a non-leftist get near the party nomination again from that point on, including in 1960.

After all, Reagan exited the Dems over JFK’s leftism. He made mincemeat out of RFK, Sr. in a debate on the issues of the day.

JFK and even RFK, Sr might “seem” like “Conservatives” today by Demonrat standards, especially since the Communist-Fascist takeover of the party, but they were men of the left in the 1960s.


42 posted on 08/14/2023 4:32:30 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: RandFan

“Brazile says GOP may never be ‘mainstream’ again”

let us pray that’s true: a REAL opposition party should NEVER be “mainstream” ... a “mainstream” opposition party is Deep State approved ...


43 posted on 08/14/2023 4:38:48 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: RandFan

And we all know Crazy Donna is one of CNN’s smartest “experts”. ROTFL.


44 posted on 08/14/2023 5:15:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("There's no cryin' in baseball and there's no ethics in politics!" )
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To: RandFan

Words from a fine, upstanding, HONEST democrat! /s


45 posted on 08/14/2023 5:18:45 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: RandFan
...who is basically running on a platform of retribution...

There's the fear factor for the Dem Factory!

46 posted on 08/14/2023 5:20:33 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RandFan
"I don’t know if the Republican Party will ever be a, quote/unquote,
a mainstream party again like it was before, when you understood conservatism, conservative values.”

Translation - OH NO! They're getting rid of RINOS.

47 posted on 08/14/2023 5:24:23 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RandFan

Sounds like Donna Brazil has a problem with people out on bail


48 posted on 08/14/2023 5:49:00 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Guns don't kill people, Democrats do. )
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To: RandFan

As long as Demoncrats ... I mean Democrats are as successful at stealing elections as they were in 2020 that’s probably true.


49 posted on 08/14/2023 6:16:15 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: RandFan

Brazile.... nattering nut job, only employed because she is black and lesbian. Has she ever been right about anything?


50 posted on 08/14/2023 6:44:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: Rummyfan
Brazile.... nattering nut job, only employed because she is black and lesbian.

And of course corrupt to the core for the cause. Seriously, she gave Hillary debate questions ahead of time.

51 posted on 08/14/2023 6:45:33 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: kiryandil
It's the DNC ballot factories that put them over the top

That and the undeniable fact that as to strategy and tactics, the Democrat/Communist Party runs circles around the GOP. When it comes to direct confrontation with Democrat/Communists, the GOP almost always loses ... hands down; it's literally no contest.

52 posted on 08/14/2023 6:51:48 AM PDT by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: RandFan

Brazil’s and the hill

A PERFECT LEFT WING COUPLE.

VOTE DEMOCRATS OUT !!!


53 posted on 08/14/2023 7:32:54 AM PDT by Pearfect
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To: RandFan

Hmm well

We are the majority in the House

The majority of governors

Have the majority of state congresses

Have the most super majorities.

Exactly what does she mean?


54 posted on 08/14/2023 7:57:26 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: fieldmarshaldj

JFK was a Moderate Liberal for the time. Today he would be right wing.


55 posted on 08/14/2023 10:41:11 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: cowboyusa

Nope, he was of the left, and still would be today. He was the one pushing for government solutions, people serving the government. It was Socialist. The Dems would not allow for non-leftists to have the Presidential nomination, even in 1960.

The left fought too hard to purge Conservatives and center-right people out of the party to let them try to come back, they went nuts in 1924 when one managed to get through to the nomination. They did it in 1896 by vilifying and pushing Grover Cleveland out in favor of William Jennings Bryan, FDR himself spearheaded the purge in the 1930s to rid them out of Congress (and made sure centrist VP John Nance “Cactus Jack” Garner wouldn’t succeed him as President), and the final purges in the post-Watergate era to the present day. There’s not a single center-right Democrat left in federal office. The most “Conservative” one now would’ve been well on the left in the 1980s and 1990s. 85-90% leftist Kirsten Synema was forced out of the party for not being Marxist enough ! Even Manchin is about 80% leftist.

There was a reason why Reagan and others left the Dems at that time. If JFK had been this “right winger”, he’d have lost the nomination in 1960 to Hubert Humphrey.


56 posted on 08/14/2023 9:54:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Humphrey was to the Left of JFK.


57 posted on 08/15/2023 2:21:08 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: cowboyusa

They were both left-wingers. Which is the whole point. No non-leftist was ever going to be nominated for President by the Dems, and hasn’t since after 1924.


58 posted on 08/15/2023 3:26:34 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Then Goldwater and Reagan was the only non- Leftist Nominated by the GOP. Eisenhower called himself a Modern Republican. Nixon was Leftist. Ford was a Moderate. We know what we got until President Trump.
59 posted on 08/15/2023 8:47:22 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: cowboyusa

From 1920-onwards, I would describe them as such:

1920 - Harding - Conservative (and arguably had the greatest results)

1924 - Coolidge - Conservative (but a black mark was putting left-winger Harlan Fiske Stone on SCOTUS, who was so well-regarded by FDR that he was promoted to Chief Justice)

1928 - Hoover - “Moderate” (Hoover would’ve actually run in 1920 as the Democrat nominee had he not realized the party was going to be wiped out in the election and switched parties). Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon, a Conservative, and architect of Harding’s superb economic policies, should’ve been the nominee, but he took his name out of consideration as being too old.

1932 - Hoover was meddling in the economy enough that FDR actually tried running to his right on fiscal austerity(!)

1936 - Alf Landon - Moderate Squish (the GOP had been so wiped out, they hardly had much of a farm team)

1940 - Willkie - Liberal, but anti-FDR (curiously would’ve died before the expiration of his term, as would his running mate, OR Sen. McNary)

1944/1948 - Tom Dewey - “Establishment” Liberal/”Moderate”

1952/1956 - Ike - Establishment Liberal/”Moderate”

1960 - Nixon - “Moderate” (but not actually Establishment)

1964 - Goldwater - Anti-Establishment Libertarian (not quite as Conservative as he claimed, especially on pro-life issues)

1968/1972 - Nixon - (again) Moderate (his greatest desire was to appeal to the whole of the political spectrum and squeeze out both the “far” ends)

1976 - Ford - “Moderate” Squish (though spared the nation a trial of Nixon, for better or worse. Perhaps if we had had that then, Nixon could’ve blown open the corrupt “Derp State” political establishment at the time)

1980/1984 - Reagan - Conservative* (*however, Reagan’s similar desire as Nixon’s to appeal to the broad spectrum had him making unsound decisions, such as trying to put liberal Sen. Schweiker as his running mate in ‘76, picking Establishment Bush in ‘80, putting social liberal Sandra Day O’Connor on SCOTUS)

1988/1992 - Bush, Sr - Moderate “Conservative” Establishment (a study in contrasts as Bush, Sr ran a brilliant, cutthroat campaign with Lee Atwater in 1988, unseen for the next 28 years. A disastrous reelection in ‘92 that was almost close to being a ringer for Clinton. He should’ve stepped aside)

1996 - Dole - Old-line Conservative (a gentleman and a war hero, though that didn’t work for Winfield Scott in 1852 with the Whigs. He actually probably could’ve won had Gingrich prevailed in the ‘95 gov’t shutdown showdown with Bubba the Rapist, which unfortunately resulted in a reinvigorated candidacy for the latter)

2000/04 - Shrub - Conservative Internationalist Establishment (*which turned out to be the last shot at power for the “War Party” wing of the GOP, the revenge of the Bushies)

2008 - McQueeg - RINO Establishment Warmonger (the first clear evidence the DC-based wing was happy to see the party go down in flames. McQueeg had almost been persuaded to switch parties in 2004 to run with Lurch Kerry. He also wanted to get Joe Lieberman to be his running mate. I consider his candidacy to be that of full-fledged “ringer”, and he was actually horrified that the choice of Gov. Palin as a running mate briefly ignited his candidacy and pushed him past Zero, until his handlers, Willard the Rat, the media and pop culture declared war on Palin and the ticket was destroyed)

2012 - Willard the Rat - Ringer Establishment Derp Stater (the second election in a row where the DC party chose one of the most unpopular figures in the party. He was used to stop any authentic candidate from coming forward to run)

2016/2020/2024 - Trump - Populist Protectionist America-Firster Anti-Establishment (not a strict Conservative as we understand it, but marrying a lot of the old regular Conservatives who’d been shut out of the nomination process for some time and carrying in a lot of the working class that would’ve been pro-union Democrats in decades past beginning with FDR. Almost a 1920s Republican. The difference between him and Goldwater is that Goldwater wasn’t running to win in 1964, but Trump always runs to win)


60 posted on 08/16/2023 3:21:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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