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Biden's carbon proposal is unworkable, US power sector warns
Reuters ^ | 8/8/2023 | Nichola Groom and Valerie Volcovici

Posted on 08/08/2023 3:48:26 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

U.S. power plant owners warned the Biden administration on Tuesday that its sweeping plan to slash carbon emissions from the electricity sector is unworkable, relying too heavily on costly technologies that are not yet proven at scale.

Top utility trade group the Edison Electric Institute (EEI) asked the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for revisions of the proposed power plant standards, which hinge on the widespread commercial availability of carbon capture and storage (CCS) and low-emissions green hydrogen, adding the agency's vision was "not legally or technically sound."

"Electric companies are not confident that the new technologies EPA has designated to serve as the basis for proposed standards for new and existing fossil-based generation will satisfy performance and cost requirements on the timelines that EPA projects," EEI said in a public comment released on Tuesday on the agency's deadline for feedback.

Resistance from the EEI and other energy-related groups poses a potentially big challenge to the administration's climate agenda.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenvoters; carbon; dementiajoe; energy; fjb; globalwarminghoax; power
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1 posted on 08/08/2023 3:48:26 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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Biden is a Putin wannabe.


2 posted on 08/08/2023 3:49:47 PM PDT by CMailBag (I)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Biden is a Putin wannabe.


3 posted on 08/08/2023 3:50:26 PM PDT by CMailBag (I)
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‘Unworkable”... as intended...


4 posted on 08/08/2023 3:50:28 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

that’s the point. Chomo Joe ran on the promise to end fossil fuels and he plans to bring on the pain.


5 posted on 08/08/2023 3:50:59 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Unworkable? not if one factors in millions of “displaced” citizens (who lose their livelihoods, and eventually their lives, over the new Bidenomics energy program). (Perhaps drastic population reduction is an unstated primary goal?)


6 posted on 08/08/2023 3:52:49 PM PDT by SteveH
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they know

they dont care


7 posted on 08/08/2023 3:53:53 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Collectivism never figures in the harm done to populations. Central planners know best.


8 posted on 08/08/2023 3:56:33 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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Isn’t power plant greenhouse gas reduction an important component of AOC’s green new deal?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/21/climate/green-new-deal-questions-answers.html

what about nuclear?


9 posted on 08/08/2023 3:57:12 PM PDT by SteveH
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You will be hot and you will be cold and you will like it.


10 posted on 08/08/2023 3:57:41 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Right Wing Vegan

When it comes to practically workable solutions, and to compassion for the general public, the bidenites score ZERO!!!!


11 posted on 08/08/2023 4:00:05 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Population Reduction = REDUCE DEMOCRATS!

Hey Democrats, do the world a favor and SELF ABORT!!!


12 posted on 08/08/2023 4:02:10 PM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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De-industrialization of the US and the West. Biden is our version of Pol Pot.


13 posted on 08/08/2023 4:07:11 PM PDT by kabar
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These left-wingers are mentally retarded and/or pure evil money-grubbers.


14 posted on 08/08/2023 4:13:08 PM PDT by vpintheak (There is no Trans. There is only mentally ill)
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which hinge on the widespread commercial availability of carbon capture and storage (CCS) and low-emissions green hydrogen

I'm surprised there are no scientists at the EPA. One would think that the agency that funded my STEM PhD would have a scientist or two on staff, but apparently not.

Schemes to capture and store carbon are, in simple language, schemes to convert carbon into forms that are biologically unusable. How will plants survive when the chemical that they need to survive is no longer present or is present at such low concentrations that they cannot extract it from the air? How will anything else survive when plants start dying off from lack of carbon? How does killing off living things on the planet stave off global warming? Without plants to absorb solar energy to fuel the conversion of carbon dioxide to other biomolecules, sunlight just hits bare ground. And bare ground converts light into heat quite efficiently, as anyone who has ever walked outside barefoot in the summer is aware.

And I don't know where they imagine all of this "low-emissions green hydrogen" is going to come from. Pure gaseous H2 is not produced naturally in large quantities. In order to acquire H2, it must be liberated from molecules in which hydrogen is a component, such as water or any hydrocarbon. It takes energy to break the covalent chemical bonds in a molecule to yield free H2 (plus whatever chemical remains behind after removing the hydrogen). The energy gained by burning hydrogen to produce (mostly) water will always be less than the amount of energy required to extract the hydrogen in the first place. This is basic physics. This is the reason hydrogen fuel cells, despite heavy hyping, have never taken off commercially.

15 posted on 08/08/2023 4:36:40 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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US power plant companies will bend over and take it.


16 posted on 08/08/2023 4:38:03 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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This is because the eco-nuts don’t follow science...they are a cult that believes that simply putting unreachable goals on paper will make it so. The more you explain the basics of physics, the more they dig in their heals and call you a denier.


17 posted on 08/08/2023 4:57:29 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

That won’t stop him.


18 posted on 08/08/2023 4:58:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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“Biden is a Putin wannabe.”


I don’t see Putin trying to destroy the electrical grid of Russia, or trying to drive electiricity prices to unaffordability for his population.

If you want that sort of “Freedom and democracy” you have to come to the Globohomo West.


19 posted on 08/08/2023 5:16:07 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Who thought it was designed to work?


20 posted on 08/08/2023 5:17:33 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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