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Stockton 7-11 clerks went too far in viciously beating brazen shoplifter | Opinion
Modesto Bee ^ | AUGUST 05, 2023 | THE MODESTO BEE EDITORIAL BOARD

Posted on 08/06/2023 11:44:25 AM PDT by artichokegrower

Store clerks have legal options when someone shoplifts. Teaming up to brutally beat the thief isn’t one of them. No wonder two 7-11 clerks in Stockton who battered a would-be shoplifter with a wooden rod are being investigated by police, as reported on TV news. Although brazen stealing is frustrating, costly and dangerous to store employees, confronting it with violence that far exceeds self-defense is not the answer.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 711; beating; california; crime; lootie; mcclatchy; sikhs; stockton; stocktoncalifornia
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To: artichokegrower

Well, Stealing is illegal, beating is illegal, what difference does it make, we are not enforcing rules these days.


81 posted on 08/06/2023 1:06:40 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: artichokegrower; BenLurkin; AAABEST; Hambone 1934; Secret Agent Man; Paladin2; gibsonguy; ...

And now, for the REST of the story!

Third time in less than 24 hours AT THE SAME STORE was the charm:

According to police, an employee at the 7-Eleven on Center Street, across the street from the Stockton Police Department headquarters, called officers at 3:41 a.m. on July 28 to report a suspect who went behind the counter and threatened to shoot the victim if he intervened.

According to police, the man got away with several packs of cigarettes and other items that he placed in a large garbage bag before leaving.

Less than 24 hours later, on July 29 at 12:27 a.m., the employee called police again to report that the same suspect entered the store and demanded money while simulating having a handgun.

The employee didn't comply and the suspect grabbed food items and put them in a garbage bag before leaving, police said.

At 3:05 a.m. [on July 29], officers responded to the intersection in front of the store to meet with firefighters who were with a man complaining of pain in his leg and shoulder.

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If these men are prosecuted - NEVER cooperate with police, and make sure all video is destroyed.

The American Jesters system is banana republic BS.

82 posted on 08/06/2023 1:08:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: artichokegrower

I thought they were pretty restrained about it.


83 posted on 08/06/2023 1:09:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Persevero; Georgia Girl 2
see post #82
84 posted on 08/06/2023 1:14:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: artichokegrower

Fools. When confronted with a gun a metal rod is the appropriate response.


85 posted on 08/06/2023 1:16:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Eccl 10:2
Toward the end, the Sikh should have used the stick less like a bat and more like a bayonet.

Yes, in a manner to preclude any future breeding by the perp.

86 posted on 08/06/2023 1:19:02 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: artichokegrower

No, they didn’t go too far. Their mistake was letting the video get out. Nobody protects us but us.


87 posted on 08/06/2023 1:28:21 PM PDT by fxerider76
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To: artichokegrower

Yeah, investigate them. Maybe there’s a medal that can be bestowed upon them.


88 posted on 08/06/2023 1:31:22 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: artichokegrower

I watched the video. The thief told them he had a gun and kept reaching for his back pocket. By any reasonable standard they were justified in defending themselves up to and including shooting him. Their actions actually showed great restraint.


89 posted on 08/06/2023 1:35:28 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: artichokegrower

Should have slit his throat...


90 posted on 08/06/2023 1:36:20 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: artichokegrower

Wasn’t THAT “viciously” beat...did the perp go to the hospital?


91 posted on 08/06/2023 1:36:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: artichokegrower

Modesto Bee needs to ask itself:

Would this incident have happened if the Modesto police and DA arrested/prosecuted thieves? The thief believed the police would do nothing. The store owners believed the police would do nothing about the theft. They were both correct. Government abdication of its fundamental duties forces honest citizens to protect themselves. J’accuse The Modesto government, which might as well have beaten the scumbag themselves. All public officials there who support non-enforcement should resign immediately — they are stealing their paychecks.

From what I could see it was a very restrained beating, using light cane, with all blows aimed at the thief’s legs, not his head. What they dished out was a few love taps to correct a rotten child. A solid ash bat shampoo would have been brutal and edge closer to illegality, though I would vote not-guilty.


92 posted on 08/06/2023 1:47:36 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: artichokegrower

For some reason they can charge the guys who beat the crap out of a brazen thief but will allow brazen thieves to brazenly steal with no response.

I would say that if store owners DONT dissuade these thieves they’re stupid.


93 posted on 08/06/2023 1:54:27 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: kiryandil

I would argue that we’re WAY beyond worrying about the perps on the street and need to exact extrajudicial punishment of those who abrogated their public service, thereby directly endangered the public.

It could be argued as a public service.


94 posted on 08/06/2023 1:56:05 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: artichokegrower

“Store clerks have legal options when someone shoplifts. Teaming up to brutally beat the thief isn’t one of them.”

Apparently, it is.


95 posted on 08/06/2023 1:58:46 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: gibsonguy

American politicians, celebrating Khaddafy being sodomized to death by ISIS/American funded troops, but don’t beat on a thief at home.

We came we saw he died.....cackle cackle cackle


96 posted on 08/06/2023 2:03:19 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: meyer

Laws need to be changed, to allow victims to stop thieves by any means necessary. Car, boats, womens honor, childrens innocence, money, jewelry or just piece of mind. Let the owner do as he pleases to those who are in the process of committing a crime.


97 posted on 08/06/2023 2:05:35 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: artichokegrower

Tyrus was right the only thing he did wrong was not yell at him saying stuff like,”You ever going to try that again, ARE YOU????ARE YOU????. Answer me !!!!!


98 posted on 08/06/2023 2:07:00 PM PDT by mware
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To: blackdog

Jumping on my car? First thing I think when I see someone doing that on the streets is, put in my ear plugs, and put some holes in the roof. In the world of 2023, who can afford full coverage insurance? Every vehicle I own is paid for, when it is destroyed, I HAVE TO WORK TO REPLACE IT. That thing is mine, PERIOD.


99 posted on 08/06/2023 2:08:40 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: artichokegrower

If no serious bodily injury was inflicted I would argue that the use of force was not excessive, but I won’t pretend to be objective.


100 posted on 08/06/2023 2:08:45 PM PDT by Spok
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