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Trump sought to ‘exploit the violence and chaos’ of Jan. 6 with lies, indictment says
CNBC ^ | August 2, 2023 | by Kevin Breuninger

Posted on 08/02/2023 5:26:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: V_TWIN

Oh, they know they will lose power. They also know Republicans will never respond in kind. Aside from Trump there isn’t a candidate on that list that won’t go into office, declaring that he/she wants to get past the partisan politics that have divided the country the past few years, and absolve all of this. It’s for the good is the country doncha know.


41 posted on 08/02/2023 7:32:46 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: McGruff

The judge will never allow it.


42 posted on 08/02/2023 8:07:19 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: metmom

I always thought that was so transparently a move to make the
people of America think the government was truly under attack
when it wasn’t.

How do you take over a government with no weapons?

Think people! (not you)


43 posted on 08/02/2023 8:09:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: JBW1949

You don’t remember Maxine?


44 posted on 08/02/2023 8:25:09 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: chopperk

The only thing Pelosi can expand is her intestinal gasses. At her age, she needs to be in a nursing home.


45 posted on 08/02/2023 8:25:13 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I thought that is where that came from, but the poster kinda implied Trump said it....

Maybe they forgot the /sarc tag....


46 posted on 08/02/2023 8:49:06 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The whole purpose of this lawfare is to keep Trump tied up in the court system and to deplete his funds for legal expenses. Ultimately none of this will end up with Trump in jail. That is not the goal. The goal is to keep him out of the White House. He is lucky that they value him alive.


47 posted on 08/02/2023 9:30:14 AM PDT by webheart
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To: BenLurkin

It’s funny how the MSM talked about how the elections were bogus with Bush W. Vs. Gore, questioned Trump vs. Clinton, but NOW this same MSM argues that the elections 2020 were legit and folks shouldn’t question them.

No one really has confidence in the system anymore.

People merely agree with the outcome sometimes and them argue it’s legit.

We all know about Gerrymandering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering This is an old technique, well understood, even taught in school.

But today, you have media conglomerates, digital voting machines, mail in ballots, the locations of where elections are held, times polling stations are open, elections are called before all votes are counted, you have government interference by Intel and law enforcement, voter intimidation, use of thugs to crash campaign rallies, censorship, the adjudication process and who gets to make these decisions, proof of voter eligibility, how much the law enforcement decides to go after those conducting election fraud, and more.

The point being that there are many variables and you better believe they manipulate all of them. Everyone is looking at all of these variables and how it impacts them. This is a game where people’s political future and billions of dollars are at stake. There are no coincidences.

It’s also an election system where we have many ways where by making small changes you can add some votes to one candidate, and delete some from the other. It is not a simple and transparent system and today it just boils down to how much gaming of the system you have. The candidate that is closer tied to the bureaucracy, who is favored by the media, has an advantage since they can generally shape the process more than their opponent, i.e. Biden in the last elections.

There is no way around it. If you want fair elections, it needs to return to a vote in person, on a single election day, where you show an ID verifying you’re eligible to vote and this is recorded so that multiple voting is not possible.

All of this “nice guy” stuff like the massive use of mail in votes simply opens the doors for massive fraud, and everyone knows this! “Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” (From a report by former President Jimmy Carter in 2005 about mail in ballots).

The ONLY thing which changes is who wins and then the opposing side will list all the reasons why elections are not entirely fair or real. But since the Democrats have extremely favorable media coverage when an Obama or Biden wins, all the shady aspects are not really discussed much or they are simply brushed away.

When Obama won, this wasn’t made into a big issue because the media had shivers running up their legs with the idea of a black Democrat being President: https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/11/05/was-2008-black-panther-incident-voter-intimidation.cnn In general this got very little coverage even though you had many such incidents across the nation since you had an organized attempt by the New Black Panthers.

Are elections real? On a sliding scale of 0-100% (100% being entirely fair and transparent
) I would argue they are 70% real. But if you ask an average citizen, it really just boils down to if their candidate won. When Trump won, the elections were bogus to many Democrats. When Biden won, the elections are bogus to many Republicans.


48 posted on 08/02/2023 3:41:17 PM PDT by Red6
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