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Say Goodbye to Permissionless Travel
Reason ^ | 7.29.2023 | Matt Welch

Posted on 07/29/2023 11:00:07 PM PDT by libh8er

… The grimly named European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) is projected to cost 7 euros per application and take up to 14 days to render a decision.

Before you start shaking your fist at freedom-hating Eurocrats, know that ETIAS is the belated continental answer to a system the U.S. has imposed on residents of friendly countries since 2009, called the Electronic System for Travel Authorization, or ESTA. Like ETIAS, ESTA is a response to 21st-century terrorist attacks and combines modest fees ($21) with less-than-instantaneous turnaround times (a promised 72 hours). Both either tweak or torpedo (depending on your point of view) the notion of reciprocal "visa waiver" travel between high-trust countries.

U.S. passports have long been given the red carpet treatment worldwide, due to the country's economic heft and traditional leadership role in negotiating down international barriers to the movement of people (and goods). That latter ethic began to deteriorate after the Cold War, with the rise of bipartisan anti-illegal immigration politics in the early 1990s, and then in earnest after Saudi nationals pulverized the World Trade Center with highjacked planes on September 11, 2001.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europe; travel; visa

1 posted on 07/29/2023 11:00:07 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

LGB....


2 posted on 07/29/2023 11:03:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Wait 14 days to find out IF you are going to be admitted ??? And then pay a fee !?! This is not about security. This is humiliation. Trump said he would have ended it very quickly.


3 posted on 07/29/2023 11:04:47 PM PDT by libh8er
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In 2019 New Zealand started requiring this ...

To visit there, I had to get one of these online but it was good for 2 years...

I could visit as many times as I wanted to during that time

It took less than 10 minutes to get the answer ...

The instructions were to print the page and bring it with me ...

Hopefully the UE one will be as easy if they start it ...

No I dont like it at all ....


4 posted on 07/29/2023 11:21:42 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I went to New Zealand in Nov of 2017. It was so easy. Just showed my passport and walked through. No questions asked.


5 posted on 07/29/2023 11:28:48 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Tennessee Nana

They need it to be easy to get it established worldwide. Then it becomes hard, very hard.


6 posted on 07/30/2023 12:18:24 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: libh8er

technically speaking, countries have always had the right to limit travel. A country can deny a passport to their subjects and countries can deny you upon arrival. That has been the case for hundreds of years.

But now they are moving into the realm of full control of your movement.


7 posted on 07/30/2023 12:26:34 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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To: libh8er

What is the status of the Schengen Agreement? Or are we the only ones affected?


8 posted on 07/30/2023 1:10:01 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: libh8er

50 waiver-free countries, including Australia, now have to get an ESTA approval to travel into or through the US. it’s much lengthier than a previous form.


9 posted on 07/30/2023 1:11:11 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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Just go to the southern border and you can walk right in easy peasy!!!


10 posted on 07/30/2023 1:13:13 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: libh8er

Americans didn’t even need a passport at all until the 1950s


11 posted on 07/30/2023 3:13:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: libh8er

Controlling your ability to freely travel is part of the comminist’s plan.


12 posted on 07/30/2023 3:48:06 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: libh8er

LOL! Meanwhile we let millions of illegal invaders in with zero restrictions


13 posted on 07/30/2023 4:59:18 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: libh8er

He didn’t end ours during his four years. Why?


14 posted on 07/30/2023 5:25:54 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Jonty30
[They need it to be easy to get it established worldwide. Then it becomes hard, very hard.]

I know I keep hammering this. But unapologetically. What the world saw with Covid-19(84) is only the beginning (with apologies to the band Chicago). It's not going to happen tomorrow; but with Digital Currency, travel restrictions, etc. they will make it so NO man can Buy or Sell without submitting to the Global System.

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15 posted on 07/30/2023 6:11:22 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: libh8er

They can kiss American tourism goodbye.


16 posted on 07/30/2023 8:14:31 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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