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To: Angelino97

The USA gets multiple things for the military aid it gives Israel:

1. A massive beachhead, forward supply base, and (effectively) unsinkable aircraft carrier in a critical area.

2. The arguably fourth most powerful world military that does its dirty work.

3. Testing and evaluation of equipment in the real world.

4. A human spy network in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and former Soviet Union, which the USA completely lacks due to sheer incompetence of your spy agencies in the human intelligence world.

5. And most importantly to your military industrial complex, the military aid comes with the string that Israel not develop certain weapon systems. The main proponents of aid are industries and Congressmen who are worried Israel would make something that makes the F35 or 22 look obsolete for a fraction of the cost. Raytheon did its absolute best to crush Iron Dome. We entered the drone space instead of manned aircraft simply because your M/I Complex didn’t think it was important at the time.

6. It’s far less than expended on Japanese and Korean security by the USA, all without putting your young men’s lives in danger (unlike there).

It’s also the exact same amount of money as given to Arab nations.

And now less than your taxpayers have burned up in Ukraine, in just a couple of years.

I get the concern with wasting taxpayer money, especially with a massive invasion occurring on your southern border. I could see stopping it all. But select outrage as to Israel is nonsense.


32 posted on 07/24/2023 6:47:09 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
The USA gets multiple things for the military aid it gives Israel:

A massive beachhead, forward supply base, and (effectively) unsinkable aircraft carrier in a critical area.

It's not our aircraft carrier. Israel puts Israel First.

The arguably fourth most powerful world military that does its dirty work.

What Israel does against the Arabs, it does for itself.

If we were neutral, the Arabs wouldn't be our enemies. We wouldn't "need" Israel to do any "dirty work" for us.

A human spy network in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and former Soviet Union,...

I don't trust the U.S. Deep State -- why should I trust Israel's Deep State?

Israel's intel might be good, but it's biased. Israel assured us Saddam was close to creating a nuclear bomb, thus enticing us into war with Iraq. Israel was either wrong, or they lied.

Israeli intel has been saying that Iran is "six months away from creating a nuclear bomb" for nearly 20 years now. Thank God we're ignoring Israel on that.

And most importantly to your military industrial complex, the military aid comes with the string that Israel not develop certain weapon systems...

Israel ignores "strings" whenever it's not in their interest. I recall a news story long ago about how Israel was re-selling U.S. tech to Red China, despite "strings" that they couldn't do it.

It’s far less than expended on Japanese and Korean security...

It's not either/or. We should end all foreign aid, no exceptions.

It’s also the exact same amount of money as given to Arab nations.

I doubt that. If Israel's enemies benefit as much from our aid as does Israel, then Israel would have no objection if we ended aid to all countries. But it would object, because Israel knows it benefits far more.

But it's not either/or. We should end all foreign aid, no exceptions.

And now less than your taxpayers have burned up in Ukraine...

It's not either/or. We should end all foreign aid, no exceptions.

38 posted on 07/24/2023 11:01:04 PM PDT by Angelino97
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