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FBI acknowledges it’s actively investigating apparent attempt to hijack a fifth flight on 9/11
FloridaBulldog.org ^ | 21 July 2023 | Dan Christensen

Posted on 07/23/2023 7:27:49 PM PDT by Theoria

Nearly 22 years after al Qaeda terrorists hijacked and crashed four U.S. passenger jets in the worst attacks on American soil since Pearl Harbor, the FBI has disclosed that it is actively investigating an apparent attempt to hijack a fifth plane on 9/11.@media(min-width:0px){#div-gpt-ad-floridabulldog_org-box-3-0-asloaded{max-width:728px!important;max-height:90px!important;}}

The plane, a wide-bodied Boeing 767, was operated by United Airlines. At 9 o’clock that morning Flight 23 was scheduled to make a nonstop transcontinental trip from New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport to Los Angeles. Aboard were about 160 passengers, eight or nine crew members and more than 50,000 gallons of jet fuel.@media(min-width:0px){#div-gpt-ad-floridabulldog_org-medrectangle-3-0-asloaded{max-width:580px!important;max-height:400px!important;}}

That Flight 23 in 2001 is not mentioned in the final report of the 9/11 Commission, even though commission records show that its staff was well aware of it.

Florida Bulldog reported the little-known story of Flight 23 last September, which included information provided by pilot Tom Mannello that he and other crew members were interviewed by the FBI the next day.@media(min-width:0px){#div-gpt-ad-floridabulldog_org-medrectangle-4-0-asloaded{max-width:300px!important;max-height:250px!important;}}

flight 23United Airlines Flight 23 Captain Tom Mannello

The Bulldog filed a Freedom of Information request for FBI records about UAL Flight 23 last summer. The FBI recently responded by acknowledging that it has records about Flight 23, but that they are exempt from public disclosure.

RECORDS RELEASE COULD ‘INTERFERE WITH ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS’

“There is a pending or prospective law enforcement proceeding relevant to these responsive records, and the release of the information could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings. Therefore, your request is being administratively closed,” wrote Joseph Bender Jr., acting section chief of the FBI’s Record/Information Dissemination Section.

The letter does not elaborate. But given the passage of so many years, it seems plausible that the FBI’s probe is approaching a decision point as to whether to bring a criminal charge.@media(min-width:0px){#div-gpt-ad-floridabulldog_org-box-4-0-asloaded{max-width:580px!important;max-height:400px!important;}}

It is well known that 19 al Qaeda jihadists – including 15 citizens of Saudi Arabia – engaged in four coordinated hijackings on 9/11; two jetliners crashed into the twin towers of New York’s World Trade Center, another rammed the Pentagon, the fourth dove into a field near Shanksville, PA as passengers fought to gain control.

Those hijacked flights originated out of airports in Boston, Newark and suburban Washington, D.C.

Capt. Mannello was preparing United 23 for pushback from JFK’s Terminal 7 when he got his first hint that “something wasn’t quite right.”

“The guy doing the pushback asked me if I’d heard anything about a fire at the World Trade Center. I said, ‘no’ and thought nothing more of it,” Mannello told Florida Bulldog last year.

Cleared to taxi to a runway, Mannello and his co-pilot, Carol Timmons, got in line behind about 10 other planes that were lined up; nobody was taking off. A report soon arrived that a plane had crashed into the trade center. Mannello charged it off to somebody “in a Cessna doing something stupid.”

AL QAEDA ATTACKS

In fact, at 8:46 a.m. terrorist Mohamed Atta had rammed American Airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower. Seventeen minutes later, hijacker Marwan al-Shehhi flew United Airlines Flight 175 into the south face of the South Tower. Both aircraft were Boeing 767s, like Flight 23.

At 9:20 a.m., United’s Aircraft Communications and Response system sent out a warning: “Beware any cockpit intrusion…two aircraft in NY hit Trade Center Blds….”

United Airlines Flight 23 co-pilot Carol Timmons

Mannello and Timmons, who a decade later became the first woman general in the Delaware Air National Guard, reacted immediately. Mannello grabbed the plane’s crash axe. Timmons wedged their suitcases between a metal bulkhead and the cockpit door.@media(min-width:0px){#div-gpt-ad-floridabulldog_org-large-leaderboard-2-0-asloaded{max-width:728px!important;max-height:90px!important;}}

Then Mannello heard “the strangest radio call I’ve ever heard in my life. New York ground controllers in the tower said, ‘Ladies and gentlemen the airport is now officially closed. We’ve been ordered to evacuate this facility. You are on your own.’”

Mannello notified via intercom the flight attendants and told them not to try and enter the cockpit. One flight attendant quickly replied, “We’ve got these four weird young Arab guys sitting in first class. It’s unusual.”

As Mannello taxied back to the gate, he took a route with a view of Manhattan. He and Timmons could see thick black smoke pouring out of the World Trade Center.

Parked at the gate, Mannello and Timmons, who died in August 2020, shut down the engines as passengers, including the four “Arabs” deplaned. When they were ready to leave, Mannello looked through the cockpit door’s peephole and saw a mechanic waiting. “He says, ‘You gotta clear out. I’m ordered to lock up the airplane,’” Mannello said.

FBI NOTIFIED ABOUT FLIGHT 23

Mannello, now retired, went to the chief pilot’s office and described what had happened with the Arabs. The chief pilot called the FBI. Agents questioned the crew at length the following day.

An agent told Mannello that “there were actually seven Arabs or Muslims who might have been Saudis on the plane. Three were a couple with a two or three-year-old baby. ‘We’re looking for the other four gentlemen,’ the agent said.

Last March, TMZ Investigates broadcast a program about Flight 23 that took the story further. Two flight attendants said the four Arabs in first class were two men, a young boy and a woman in an enveloping burqa who all they believed was actually a man posing as a woman. The men were impatient to take off.

One flight attendant noted there was also a man in business class wearing a T-shirt and sweating profusely even though the plane was fully cooled.

The electronics bay beneath the main cabin of a Boeing 767

The flight attendants also stated that after everyone was believed to have deplaned, it was discovered that the floor hatch behind the crew cabin, and under carpeting, had been opened – leading to an electronics compartment and another hatch that opens out on the underside of the plane. Mannello did not observe it, but speculated it may have been used by someone on the ground to enter the plane to retrieve weapons, like box-cutters.

FLIGHT ATTENDANT CONTACTS FLORIDA BULLDOG

Yet another flight attendant that day who was not on the program recently contacted Florida Bulldog. She agreed that the four Arabs in first class were two men, a boy and a person in a burqa that she also believed was a man posing as a woman. She said she took their tickets and saw their passports, but could not recall the country.

The flight attendant said that after the plane returned to the gate, and people began deplaning, she watched a passenger agent come on board and say, “We don’t know if there are bombs on board. We’re going to move these airplanes away from the gate so it doesn’t affect the terminal. The mechanic is going to come on board and drive the airplane, you know, away from the gate. I heard all that.”

The woman, who asked not to be named, said she and her colleagues searched the plane to make sure everyone was off and that no packages were left behind. She said the mechanic had entered the cockpit and she was the last crew member to step off the plane when she decided to go back to grab a bottle of water.

“The four [Arab] passengers in first class were gone. All passengers were gone, all crew members were gone. There was a mechanic in the cockpit and I stepped on alone,” the flight attendant said. “And at that moment, two men came out of hiding. They were on board our airplane, in the back galley,” she said. “They looked at me dead in the eye and turned their backs to me. Everything in me said run. I grabbed a bottle of water and I got off that airplane.”

The flight attendant said she doesn’t know how the two men came to be there. She doesn’t think they were United kitchen workers or mechanics. “I will tell you now, I’m convinced they were hiding in a meal cart.

“What I was told by an FBI person is that they came forward, the mechanic confronted them and when he said what are you doing, they pretended that they didn’t speak English. He went in the cockpit. He locked the door and called for security. They ripped the carpet up off the floor and opened to the wheel well, they went down through that, an electronic room. I thought it was a wheel well. I guess they have access to the wheel well, but it’s all the electronics there. And they escaped off the tarmac.”

9/11 COMMISSION TOLD ABOUT FLIGHT 23

What did the FBI make of all this? And why is it actively investigating the matter more than two decades later?

The bureau isn’t saying. We know, however, that the Chicago-based dispatcher in control of all of United’s coast-to-coast flights on 9/11 – a total of 16 jetliners, including ill-fated flights 175 and 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania as passengers fought with the hijackers – told 9/11 Commission staff about Flight 23 during an interview on April 24, 2004.

Ed Ballinger

According to a 10-page memorandum for the record, Ed Ballinger stated that he’d been told by United personnel that the “Moslems” on Flight 23 “never claimed their baggage and in their baggage was significant information of an incriminating nature.”

The memorandum goes on to say that Ballinger, who issued the “Beware any cockpit intrusion” warning, believes that communication may have prevented the hijacking of Flight 23.

Ballinger repeated his story in an interview with Florida Bulldog.

BOX-CUTTERS FOUND ON JETS

There is evidence that more plane attacks were planned. For example, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, Justice Department officials told reporters that agents conducting security sweeps had found box-cutter knives – like those carried by the 9/11 hijackers – on two Delta passenger jets scheduled to fly that day. At the time, it was not known how box-cutters got there, and the matter quickly faded away.

A Sept. 24, 2001 FBI report made public in March 2022 said a box-cutter was found under the seat of an American Airlines plane that flew from San Diego to JFK as Flight 160, and back again on Sept. 10. The jetliner was scheduled to fly to JFK again on 9/11 but never left San Diego because of the shutdown of the nation’s airports. FBI agents later determined the seat on Flight 160 “was occupied by NAME REDACTED, one of the 13 Saudi Arabian pilots previously reported on by San Diego (FBI).” At the time of the report, agents had not yet identified the occupant of the seat on the return flight on 9/10.

Two weeks after 9/11, CNN reported that officials had said that searches while all flights were grounded turned up two small knives on a scheduled Delta flight out of Boston, and a box-cutter was found on an Atlanta-to-Brussels Delta flight. Justice Department spokesman Charles Miller confirmed to CNN that box-cutters were found on some planes, but provided no further information.

“Investigators increasingly believe that the weapons may have been prepositioned by accomplices for use by others. As one U.S. official told Time magazine, ‘These look like inside jobs,’” CNN reported.

Flight 23 contains a twist on the box-cutters angle.

According to Mannello, United personnel reported finding box-cutters stashed on a United jet at JFK while all the nation’s planes were grounded. He got a call from the chief pilot of one of the flight managers who asked the tail number of the plane he’d been on. Authorities wanted to know if it was Mannello’s plane.

Flight 23’s tail number ended in 6002. It was parked near another plane with the number 6001. “They found the box-cutters on 6001,” said Mannello, who wondered whether they were placed there, on the wrong plane, by mistake.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; fbi; flight23; wot
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To: Theoria
What did the FBI make of all this? And why is it actively investigating the matter more than two decades later?

To change the narrative away from the rampant and ongoing feeb corruption surrounding, bidens, ukraine, spying on politicians and parents, and well...everything really.

Just so corrupt, but hey! "We found Jimmy Hoffa!" SQUIRREL!

61 posted on 07/24/2023 4:51:58 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Theoria

Trump will be indicted for it next month....


62 posted on 07/24/2023 4:57:27 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: Theoria

They think Trumo did it.


63 posted on 07/24/2023 5:04:56 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: Theoria

prolly left open so no one looks into CIA/FBI/globalist involvement


64 posted on 07/24/2023 5:08:29 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: LukeL

Unless that pilot trained/practiced that exact maneuver in the same aircraft type...


65 posted on 07/24/2023 5:31:55 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Theoria
At the time, it was not known how box-cutters got there, and the matter quickly faded away

Must have been too busy flying Saudis out of the country while airspace was still closed - and setting up the system to find Domestic Violent Extremists.

66 posted on 07/24/2023 5:38:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: McCarthysGhost
Trying to give us those warm and fuzzy feelings when The FBI actually meant something

Sorry, but nothing is as it seems.

67 posted on 07/24/2023 5:40:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: null and void

Yes, this story (and the “train Arabs”) were both discussed here and elsewhere on 9/11 and for days afterward.


68 posted on 07/24/2023 5:42:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: SERKIT
I recall a story where a plane was diverted to a midwestern airport (St Louis maybe) and small groups of foreign passengers exited and disappeared

I believe this was part of the "train Arabs" story - the men boarded an Amtrak train in St. Louis and were found to be carrying disguises, etc.

I just tried to Google "Train Arabs" and the first 50 hits are about persecution of Muslims by white people all over the world, but especially in the US.

I don't have time to look further, but it was a big story for a few days.

Anyone have a link or remember details?

69 posted on 07/24/2023 5:47:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: LukeL
I find it very hard to believe that a person with zero training could make a tight 330 degree while descending at over 2200 feet per minute and keep the plane level a mere dozen or so feet off the ground. To keep a jet from pitching up at that high of speed and low altitude would require precise spoiler and flap settings something even a skilled pilot would have trouble doing

Agree, but what do I know?

Have we ever read a qualified heavy jet pilot's analysis of "could any of these bozos actually flown that route without missing a tower" - and if no pilot has ever written this up, why not?

70 posted on 07/24/2023 5:51:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: Theoria

btt


71 posted on 07/24/2023 6:01:04 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Theoria
What? They're commenting on an 'ongoing investigation'?!

Oh, the horror!

72 posted on 07/24/2023 7:30:53 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (If I say something exceptionally stupid, chances are I was writing the influence of AutoCorrect. 🙄🫤)
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To: Theoria
The imagery, allusion and symbolism in WTC - 9/11 is extensive.

Av is the 11th month of the Jewish year.

Solomon’s Temple (The First Temple), and the Second Temple that replaced it (Herod’s) - were both destroyed on the 9th day of Av. (The First Temple In 587 BC, the Second Temple in 70 CE).

The 9th day of the 11th month. 9/11. *(To be clear - this is a numeric synchrony; the 9th day of Av is not September 11. Tish'a B'Av for Hebrew Year 5761 began on Saturday, 28 July 2001 and ended on Sunday, 29 July 2001).

The Twin Towers / The Twin Pillars

Abrahamic Pillars

Like many Masonic symbols, the twin pillars employed in ritual today are derived from ancient Hebrew and Biblical allegories. An early employment of the pillars can be found in the first book of Antiquities of the Jews by the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus. In this text, Josephus explains how Enoch used two pillars to protect the knowledge Adam foretold of the destruction of the world, once by fire and again by flood. Enoch placed the knowledge in a pillar of brick to protect from the fire and a stone pillar to protect from the flood. Masonic ritual makes direct reference to using pillars to store and protect knowledge.

Later, two pillars appear in the Book of Numbers, guiding Moses and the Israelites through the desert into the promised land. The pillar of cloud appeared and guided the Israelites during the day, while a pillar of fire showed the way at night. Throughout the texts of the Abrahamic religions, pillars reflected the knowledge of man as it was shared by the Great Architect.

King Solomon’s Temple

As any Master Mason knows, a lodge is built as a functional representation of the craft and the lodge room is oriented as a reflection of the Temple of King Solomon. In the bible, two prominent pillars are described as guarding the Temple’s entrance: Boaz and Jachin.

continuing…..

In Freemasonry, the building of Solomon’s Temple is a vital allegory from which we derive much of our symbolism and philosophy. Given Boaz and Jachin’s prominent placement defending the temple, it is no surprise they have come to own such an essential place in Masonic teachings of the craft.

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On September 11, buildings 1, 2 and 7 were destroyed. That day was referred to as the “new Pearl Harbor.” Pearl Harbor was attacked on December 7 (1941); or 12/7…127.

There are tons of these numeric connections and coincidences in the 9/11 event.

73 posted on 07/24/2023 8:26:24 AM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: Theoria

Anything to avoid investigating the Biden’s. Soon they’ll be looking into the Lindburgh kidnapping again.


74 posted on 07/24/2023 9:38:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Anything to avoid investigating the Biden’s. Soon they’ll be looking into the Lindburgh kidnapping again.

💯

We gave the FBI too much power. Now that the war on terror is over, the FBI sees the American People as their enemy.

75 posted on 07/24/2023 9:40:37 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

“… the FBI sees the American People as their enemy.”

Truth be told, they’ve always seen the American people as the enemy.


76 posted on 07/24/2023 9:42:44 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Truth be told, they’ve always seen the American people as the enemy.

It was like that when Hoover was in charge, you're right. But I think the last two decades, we've seen the DNC and the FBI merge.

So the FBI is acting like they are the Praetorian Guard of the Democratic Party.

77 posted on 07/24/2023 9:46:02 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: piasa

Ping.


78 posted on 07/24/2023 4:52:33 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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79 posted on 07/25/2023 8:22:13 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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To: Theoria

Bkmk


80 posted on 07/25/2023 8:43:48 AM PDT by SE Mom
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