[Reno89519]

And he lost, even if stolen. What about 2024, can he win if he got the same vote? And how many has he lost? And, importantly, as I’ve asked, is there any proof or suggestion that Trump is adding voters for 2024. No. That is simple fact, maybe inconvenient, but fact.

[escapefromboston]

The votes would be the proof and Trump became more popular after his first term . I don’t know what other kind of proof there could be.

[srmanuel]

Stop you’re wasting your time throwing logic into the mix when it comes to Trump.

Trump has a large percentage of supporters that will not abandon him no matter what happens, which in many ways is admirable.

I personally hope the MAGA agenda continues and grows inside the Republican Party, the future is economic nationalism and support for the working class of Americas especially as the Democrats go further to the left become more and more anti-American every day.

Right now the MAGA movement is totally focused on Trump and anyone who has moderate support for Trump is mocked and ridiculed and cast aside.

Many of the people he endorsed for public office run for office with the my way or the highway approach and don’t really try to attract to new people, not realizing that MAGA alone can’t win a national election and can’t win a lot of statewide elections.

Yesterday I was watching an interview with Kari Lake, in which she totally trashed Doug Ducey. Previously she trashed McCain supporters. What’s odd about this is a woman who has never won an election is trashing two people who have won multiple elections.

You don’t have to like McCain or Ducey or their policies, if you are a Republican you need their votes, instead of trashing their supporters why not try to attract them and unify the party...

In Georgia, Trump trashed Kemp and Raffensberger, they both easily won reelection and Trump and his endorsed candidates all lost their elections.

The mistakes of Georgia and Arizona are repeating themselves nationwide and Republicans simply cannot win without Georgia and Arizona.

[eastexsteve]

What about 2024, can he win if he got the same vote?

You won't shake the belief of a Trump supporter. They become stronger in their convictions every time the deep state attacks Trump because Trump supporters identify with him. And, Trump gains supporters every time they attack him because people start to realize that what the deep state is doing to Trump, they could do to anybody.

Personally, I don't think Trump will ever take the white house again because the deep state will kill him first. But, that won't stop me from voting for him.

[wildcard_redneck]

"And he lost, even if stolen."

So you're trying to tell us devote for DeSantis because then the GOP won't help the communists steal the vote from us? You are a craptastic salesman and f**k the GOP.

[Boogieman]

“What about 2024, can he win if he got the same vote?”

Well, there’s no other Republican that will get anywhere near that amount of votes, so I hope you can understand why the rest of us think your questions are silly and pointless.

[JesusIsLord]

And he lost, even if stolen. What about 2024, can he win if he got the same vote?

The answer is no. The elephant in the room is voter fraud, which has not been adequately addressed by the fractured RINO/MAGA/Establishment: republican Congress or republican state houses or republican counties.

Biden won in 2020 with various applications of voter fraud. I believe the democrat 2024 nominee for President will do the same. There is one caveat. If a 3rd party candidate like Cornell West runs - he may siphon off a very large number of black and liberal votes that could help Trump win. Then again, the democrat fraud machine probably has an answer to illegally reduce Cornell West vote totals.

[kabar]

And he lost, even if stolen.

LOL. What kind of reasoning is that? It was stolen. Trump received 11 million more votes than in 2016 or a 17% increase. Trump is the only incumbent President to receive more votes the second time and lose.

What about 2024, can he win if he got the same vote?

Of course. 74 million legal votes is the largest ever received by za sitting President surpassing Obama's record total in 2008 of 69 million and 66 million in 2012.

And, importantly, as I’ve asked, is there any proof or suggestion that Trump is adding voters for 2024. No. That is simple fact, maybe inconvenient, but fact.

Fact? Where is the proof Trump won't receive more votes? You seem to ignore the the corrupt, compromised, illegitimate, feeble, incompetent 82 year old (in Nov 2024) occupant in the WH. The overwhelming majority of Dems don't want him to run again. Biden is underwater on all the major issues and he has got us into another endless war. What will the House investigations reveal about the Biden Crime Family? Will Biden receive 81 million ballots the second time? If the Reps can stop or attenuate the fraud, Trump will win by a landslide.

[Fresh Wind]

Right or wrong, you are stating your opinion. Opinion is not fact.

[dforest]

Meatball can’t win without Trump voters and this is no way to get Trump voters.