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Would an occasional blackout help solve climate change?
LA Times ^ | 7-20-23 | SAMMY ROTH

Posted on 07/21/2023 5:03:02 PM PDT by dynachrome

What’s more important: Keeping the lights on 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, or solving the climate crisis?

That is in many ways a terrible qBut absent major breakthroughs in carbon-capture technology, we’ll eventually need to shutter most if not all of those gas plants to avoid disastrous temperature jumps. Scientists say we need to cut carbon pollution nearly in half by 2030.

Could we get started ditching gas sooner — and save some money — by accepting a few more blackouts for the next few years?

It’s a heretical question in power-grid circles. When I posed it to John Moura — director of reliability assessment and performance analysis at the North American Electric Reliability Corp. — he only half-jokingly described it as “a dagger to the heart.”uestion, for reasons I’ll discuss shortly.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: blackout; climate; communist; communistic; communists; energy; globullwarming; kalifornia; sammyroth
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To: Reno89519

There’s specific outdoor lighting in Hawaii to minimize light pollution.


41 posted on 07/21/2023 5:23:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: dynachrome

Anthropogenic climate change is pure fraud. Only fools believe in it. Unfortunately God loves fools and made an awful lot of them.

“People are stupid. They will believe any lie as long as they want it to be true or are afraid it is true”. Terry Goodkind

“It is a lot easier to fool people than convince them they’ve been fooled.” Mark Twain


42 posted on 07/21/2023 5:24:36 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Robert DeLong
Here's a workable map, red power, blue too bad.

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43 posted on 07/21/2023 5:24:37 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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To: Openurmind

I understand that it would do no good. But it would send a message. Just think of it as the electricity grid version of 51 wetbacks arriving on Martha’s Vineyard.


44 posted on 07/21/2023 5:24:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: dynachrome

No, but if everyone put their socks on the wrong feet that would help a little bit.


45 posted on 07/21/2023 5:24:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (No more new laws until we start enforcing the crap we already have!)
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To: dynachrome

Yeah. Cool. Let’s emulate South Africa or Haiti! Our Global Overlords approve.


46 posted on 07/21/2023 5:25:11 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: magooey

In the worldview of the Left....yes.


47 posted on 07/21/2023 5:25:56 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: dynachrome

There is nothing to solve here.

https://realclimatescience.com/


48 posted on 07/21/2023 5:27:43 PM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: dynachrome

49 posted on 07/21/2023 5:28:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: dynachrome

No. Next question.


50 posted on 07/21/2023 5:29:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Allegra

You’re right, fighting climate change is a full time effort! 🤣🤣🤣🤣


51 posted on 07/21/2023 5:30:05 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: sjmjax

If you have sex with a virgin, it cures you of AIDS.

Actually happened in SA.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jun/29/southafrica.aids


52 posted on 07/21/2023 5:30:15 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Gay State Conservative

I get it, but we have to wonder if it would actually make any difference to these brainwashed masses? They will just insist the rural folks should suffer to give it all to them. And that is already happening now...

We had two four hour blackouts last week so the city could stay cool while we baked in the country. If they cut power regularly, it will not be in thew city.


53 posted on 07/21/2023 5:30:52 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: dynachrome

Liberal Dem’s excluded from the blackout because it’d hurt their feelings and offend them.


54 posted on 07/21/2023 5:31:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If At First You Don't Suceed, Well So Much For Skydiving ~)
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To: dynachrome

The first thing that should be banned is printed newspapers, then the entire media industry should be mandated to use 100% renewable fossil free energy for all aspects of their business...


55 posted on 07/21/2023 5:31:54 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Indy Pendance

Here’s a workable map, red power, blue too bad.

+1000


56 posted on 07/21/2023 5:36:04 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: dynachrome

It would be like The Purge. No Thank You.


57 posted on 07/21/2023 5:37:03 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: eyeamok

Hollyweird and ‘news’ organizations would be exempt.


58 posted on 07/21/2023 5:38:01 PM PDT by dynachrome (War does not determine who is right, but who is left.)
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To: dynachrome
Residential is only 20% of power consumption and most of that is heating and cooling. Random blackouts won't save that much energy and will put people at risk.

Unless your blackouts include industries and hospitals and other necessary services. And again, you'll be pushing industries overseas where there are less environmental controls and putting people at risk. Industries and hospitals and such will simply have backup generators that are probably less efficient that the power they were getting. So you might get a net increase in energy consumption from the blackouts.

I just bought 3 home batteries and charged them from home sockets. That's in case of blackouts I can keep refrigerators and freezers running. More and more people will be doing that so that they have energy during blackouts. And how much food are you going to destroy with your blackouts?

We need a more thought out approach than random or planned blackouts. We should build clean nuclear plants and provide people with the power they need. We can continue to make incremental changes, improving efficiencies wherever there is waste. But we need to prepare for the future and an ever larger population. And blackouts don't do this.

What are major sources and users of energy in the United States

"There are 5 energy consuming sectors

"The industrial sector [32% of all energy consumption, including electricity] includes facilities and equipment used for manufacturing, agriculture, mining, and construction.

"The transportation sector [29% of all energy consumption, including electricity] includes vehicles that transport people or goods, such as cars, trucks, buses, motorcycles, trains, aircraft, boats, barges, and ships.

"The residential sector [20% of all energy consumption, including electricity] consists of homes and apartments.

"The commercial sector [18% of all energy consumption, including electricity] includes offices, malls, stores, schools, hospitals, hotels, warehouses, restaurants, and places of worship and public assembly.

"The electric power sector consumes primary energy to generate most of the electricity consumed by the other four sectors.

59 posted on 07/21/2023 5:40:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: dynachrome

Weeeel, except for the TRUTH that climate change is a crock!


60 posted on 07/21/2023 5:41:51 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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