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Climate scientists push for access to world's biggest supercomputers to build better Earth models
Nature ^ | July 11, 2023 | by Jeff Tollefson

Posted on 07/12/2023 4:05:05 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

How quickly will Earth warm, and what will that mean for the planet? To answer those questions, researchers have spent decades building increasingly sophisticated global-climate models — but those models are straining the limits of available computing power.

Now a cadre of scientists is pushing for an ambitious solution: a network of next-generation modelling centres, dubbed Earth Visualization Engines (EVE), where hundreds of staff scientists would use the latest supercomputers to run ultra-high-resolution climate models at full scale. Such models are starting to come online, and many researchers think that they could markedly improve climate projections.

Climate simulations model the conditions inside the ‘cells’ of a 3D grid that wraps around a virtual Earth, often coupled with separate models representing components such as oceans and ice sheets. Many models run on a grid with cells that average 50–100 kilometres per side, but numerous teams around the world are developing higher-resolution models with grid cells of one kilometre or even less.

Studies have already shown that higher-resolution models can produce more realistic simulations of clouds, ocean eddies and more. Many researchers hope that these models can help resolve fundamental questions about the magnitude of global warming as well as details about the role of clouds, dust and air pollution.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


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KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hoax; propaganda; socialism
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1 posted on 07/12/2023 4:05:05 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GIGO


2 posted on 07/12/2023 4:06:03 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
until we have honest scientists....we're ..........

It's all about Grant Money and power.

Fauci is a good example of an honest scientist. /s

3 posted on 07/12/2023 4:14:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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"researchers have spent decades building increasingly sophisticated global-climate models — but those models are straining the limits of available computing power."

I think this means we are going to need a new pair of boots...

4 posted on 07/12/2023 4:15:19 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: quantim

GIGO

Exactly. The model will only be as good are as biased as those setting the parameters. If the so-called climate scientists develop the model with the underlying parameters of man-made climate change accelerating the model will show such an outcome. Flawed effort from the start.


5 posted on 07/12/2023 4:16:02 AM PDT by georgiarat (We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. William Faulkner )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“We meteorologists (aka “climate scientists”) must rule the world! The only things that stand in our way are ambitious accountants, land surveyors, and map makers who want the same thing.”


6 posted on 07/12/2023 4:16:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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She’s hot.

It doesn’t matter how powerful a computer is when your algorithm is shit.


7 posted on 07/12/2023 4:18:41 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s all about Grant Money and power.

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That is EXACTLY what it is about. Grant money pays the bills.

And who funds the grants? Why we the people of course.


8 posted on 07/12/2023 4:23:29 AM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yup, that’ll help get incorrect predictions in much less time.


9 posted on 07/12/2023 4:37:28 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: quantim

“GIGO”

I’ll put it on a moral plane: dishonesty in, dishonesty out.


10 posted on 07/12/2023 4:38:12 AM PDT by cymbeline
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It is quite simple, the “models” will say what the NeoNazi’s want it to say.


11 posted on 07/12/2023 4:43:41 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A faster computer won’t help. Their current models don’t comport with the satellite data. They keep on having to massage the data to fit their models.


12 posted on 07/12/2023 4:50:37 AM PDT by TheCipher ( RINO politicians in DC are the only reptiles in the world with no backbone)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Persistence.As a meteorologist I learned predicting the same conditions works best.


13 posted on 07/12/2023 5:01:23 AM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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“...Climate scientists push for access to world’s biggest supercomputers...”

What could go wrong??


14 posted on 07/12/2023 5:18:14 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t need ,just move their thermometers away from parking lots,heat exhaust fans where they get their supposedly warming temperature readings to perpetuate their fraud on the planet


15 posted on 07/12/2023 5:21:51 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What’s wrong with building the Earth models with Legos?


16 posted on 07/12/2023 5:31:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (No more new laws until we start enforcing the crap we already have!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“settled science”....but we still need a gajillion dollars to get better accuracy because our models are limited.

All they have are models.


17 posted on 07/12/2023 5:32:56 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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18 posted on 07/12/2023 5:51:57 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

earth is the biggest model and they still cannot interpret the data correctly.


19 posted on 07/12/2023 5:53:41 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: quantim

GIGO.

Exactly. No amount of computing power will produce meaningful results if the data and underlying assumptions are faulty.


20 posted on 07/12/2023 6:03:43 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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