Posted on 06/22/2023 8:44:02 PM PDT by xxqqzz
If the train should jump the track, do you want your money back?
Pride....fall....
You know the rest.
I was joking.
Sadly, accumulating wealth is no more proof of intelligence
than a secondary school diploma.
“Who are they going to sue?”
Estate of Richard Stockton Rush? On grounds that he was personally reckless in designing/building/maintaining/operating the vessel?
The man is not some pauper unworthy of a lawsuit. His grandma was Louise Davies namesake of the symphony hall in San Francisco and was quoted in the S.F. Chronicle c. 1990 as saying, “I have quite a lot of money.” His grandpa made a fortune as a top executive at the Rockefellers’ Standard Oil and later at American President Line shipping.
This sub was some sort of multimaterial Frankenstein which used titanium as well as carbon.
Titanium is also subject to creep fatigue. It was an issue with the USSR titanium subs.
At least there were no 50 year old white men on the crew. Diversity uber alles.
Nobody did.
Not one single agency from any country.
So, who inspected & certified it as a vessel for hire?
How big was the bribe?
I’ve heard it had reserve oxy, but no CO^2 scrubbers.
Woke idiot death trap
This guy seems to have been fantasizing about himself at the level of an ignorant adolescent. A silly narcissistic ass who took others with him .
More correctly most likely thinks of himself as GOD.
Well he found out he is not.
What is this woke? He didn’t want 50 year old white guys or anyone with sub experience because they would tell him he was crazy and it wouldn’t work.
Secondly, there’s a problem with a lack of any governing authority for the design and operation of this custom-built submersible. A lawyer can’t make any credible claim that the design of the vessel deviated from the standard design of similar vessels like he could do in a case involving a car or a passenger jet (for example).
Lastly — and perhaps most important of all — is the problem of jurisdiction. The incident occurred in international waters, and the laws that govern any legal proceedings will be difficult to navigate. OceanGate will also likely have some legal protection or liability limits imposed under international maritime law.
The difference between space and undersea are significant.
To maintain human life in space you need about 14-15 psi internal pressure pushing out on the skin your vehicle. The external pressure pushing in on the skin of your vehicle at the Titanic is about 6000 psi.
That’s a totally different design element.
Already changed the article name from "detected" to "what it believed was". Giant distraction.
“Oh God, the sea is so big, and my ship is so small.”
A plaque on the nuclear fast attack sub I was on. It implores humility. Something that Stockton Rush didn’t have.
“In comments to Mexican travel vlogger Alan Estrada in 2021, Rush evoked General MacArthur saying, “You’re remembered for the rules you break.””
Certainly got that right.
“I don’t think lawyers will have much interest in this case.”
I disagree, there’s just too much ‘gold’ in his estate to ignore. For some, probably many, lawyers, it’s worth a shot.
The way I would play it: First, ignore your defenses (which are legit, which is why they have be ignored) and instead ask whether PAYING CUSTOMERS (as opposed to non-paying customers, or friends of his) have a right to expect a minimal level of safety from his product.
Obviously what is a ‘minimal level’ and did he provide that? Find a blue-enough jury and you win the case. Do it in state that also has a blue Federal Appellate Court and you win the the first appeal. Then hope the Supreme Court, at least as it exists today, declines to take the case.
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