Posted on 06/20/2023 4:51:25 AM PDT by hardspunned
MOSCOW, June 20. /TASS/. Ukraine’s armed forces command is plotting to deliver strikes on Russian territory, including Crimea, with HIMARS rockets and Storm Shadow missiles, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said at a ministry board meeting on Tuesday.
"According to our data, the leadership of the Ukrainian armed forces is planning to deliver strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation, including Crimea, with HIMARS [rockets] and Storm Shadow missiles," he said.
The top military official stressed that the use of these weapons outside of the special military operation zone would trigger immediate strikes by Russia on decision-making centers in Ukraine and would imply the full-fledged involvement of the US and UK in the conflict.
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Well, it’s not Russian territory. The Russians let it go thirty years ago. Just because no one did anything when they marched in doesn’t mean what they did was right.
The comparisons to 1930’s Germany and their expansion are scary similar.
I can’t wait to see Crimea cut off and starved.
A fascinating assertion and argument. It would be FAR more likely that it would be a "certain loss" for us all.
One might review: "US Officials Explain Biden's Shift on Nuclear Policy" from November 2022.
Source: https://www.airandspaceforces.com/u-s-officials-explain-bidens-shift-on-nuclear-posture-review/
Shoigu is an idiot
Crimea isn’t in Russia
it’s still in Ukraine,
just temporarily occupied by Russian invaders
Agreed. We are isolating ourselves. Most of the world is ignoring the sanctions against Russia including NATO members, Hungary and Turkey.
The question needs to be asked, why is Ukraine the hill to die on? Is it just a coincidence that the Biden Crime Family took bribes from Burisma or that the first impeachment of Trump involved a “perfect” phone call to Ukraine? What secret activities has Deep State been conducting in Ukraine that could violate US laws, e.g., the Fauci funded bio labs? Intel community intrigue?
Another endless war right after getting out ignominiously from Afghanistan. We have borrowed $170 billion and counting to fund this war with no end in sight.
That’s not the question I’m interested in.
You do not think there are further escalations available to Russia outside of nukes? Interesting.
-— “just temporarily occupied”
And Canada is “temporarily occupied” land “stolen” from the indigenous people. Ditto everyhwere else. Give back that land, Canuck. Or maybe not....
Not rhetorical at all. The Maginot sized red line the Russians have drawn, it’s about the FIRST use of these systems in these delineated areas. That will, according to the Russians consistently for 16 months, start retaliation upon NATO targets. That’s the deadly important question.
Canada has made Peace with its Native Peoples, dumbass
we choose to peacefully get along with our neighbors ...
unlike Russia
“The Russians are learning the damndest thing about starting a war is you don’t have control over how long it goes, or where it goes. The enemy gets a vote.”
Bravo! I could not have said it better! Now just say it to the woke green pervo globalists in DC who are responsible for the continuation of this deadly dangerous CF proxy war.
I certainly hope you’re right.
A fine and courtesy, resourced response. Your style, one may observe.
And now, to NOT respond as you do....
"The report says decades of discrimination against Indigenous peoples have led to 'widespread abuses that persist across Canada.' It notes that inadequate access to safe drinking water continues to be a major public-health risk in many Indigenous communities, and it says this has hindered efforts to advance Indigenous rights. Despite Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's promise to end drinking water advisories on First Nations reserves by 2021, in many cases they are still in effect."
In "Canada violating rights of Indigenous peoples, immigration detainees, Human Rights Watch report says" The Globe and Mail 2023.
Source: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-violating-rights-of-indigenous-peoples-immigration-detainees/
"In May of this year, the bodies of 215 children were found at a former Indigenous school site in British Columbia. As students at the Kamloops Indian Residential School, these children were part of a network of 139 schools in the federally-run 'residential school system.' From 1883 to 1997, the Canadian government forcibly placed more than 150,000 children in these schools in an effort to reeducate and assimilate Indigenous populations in what was later characterized as a 'cultural genocide.' On September 30th, Canada observed the first National Truth and Reconciliation Day in recognition of the suffering of victims and survivors from the residential school system. The debut of this holiday comes as the Canadian public reckons with the country's past mistreatment of Indigenous populations and considers the lasting impact on Indigenous people today. Indigenous protections are increasingly a topic of discussion in Canadian politics, with rising global attention on issues of systemic racism and the resurfacing of past injustices in recent investigations into Canada's historical treatment of Indigenous people."
In "Reckoning and Reparation: Canada Navigates Past Mistreatment of Indigenous Populations"
Source:
"Many assume that the Canadian motto “Peace, Order, and Good Government” informed the practice of Canadian “Indian” policy. Instead, violence, disorder and mismanagement, and a colonizing government have characterized Indigenous peoples’ experiences with the state."
In "Canada's Dark Side: Indigenous Peoples and Canada's 150th Celebration"
Source: https://origins.osu.edu/article/canada-s-dark-side-indigenous-peoples-and-canada-s-150th-celebration?language_content_entity=en
If Russia uses a nuke inside the territory of Ukraine, we won’t do squat. We certainly won’t fire one into Russia. Fact is, we talk a big game but when when the chips are down, we’re not risking an American city. At least I hope not.
Time will tell. Sounds like a lot of governments are running out of options. Maybe negotiations towards some kind of peace, even if not the optimum one any party might choose, would be an option?
Nah. Maybe not. Let's go with what's behind door number three....
Somehow, I don't imagine that happening. Things often end with whimpers. Or, like the last US helicopter lift-off in Saigon, or the last US transport out of Kabul, lunacy followed by the press pretending it's all okay. At least, okay enough. Time will tell, because forecasting what will happen next week is so-o-o-o "climate change." Regards.
how it works in Canada -
Canada gives billions of dollars to our First Nations every year
a typical Chief makes over $100,000
and by agreement, the Native groups spend the money as they see fit, the Canadian Govt stays out
if there’s poor conditions on native Territory, that’s on them, because it’s solely under their control
we’re not allowed to tell them what to do, by agreement
perhaps you should take up your concerns with them
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