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Mine has take a hit
1 posted on 06/15/2023 11:27:48 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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When you smell a bear, get out of stocks.


2 posted on 06/15/2023 11:29:43 AM PDT by Rio
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Thanks Joey.


3 posted on 06/15/2023 11:30:06 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

That is face value. Factor in inflation and it is more like 60K.


4 posted on 06/15/2023 11:31:30 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Mine also took a hit. Last year, especially. In fact, I lost $30,000.


5 posted on 06/15/2023 11:32:13 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And the dollars in 2022 were worth about 8% less than the dollars in 2021...that should be computed in the estimate.


6 posted on 06/15/2023 11:34:27 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Is that all?!

Thank God for dividends


7 posted on 06/15/2023 11:37:32 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’m curious how it’s calculated. If I go from (say) $500,000 in 2021 to $550,000 in 2023, that’s a 10% gain. But if inflation through that period has gone up 22%, then technically I lost money....no?


10 posted on 06/15/2023 11:46:11 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Today my IRAs are at -.09% since I retired on march 11 2021.


11 posted on 06/15/2023 11:48:15 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
To place money in a "managed" fund is to sign up to pay a manager and his expenses. Decades of preparation with tax law being used set this up, wherein a small elite coterie has obtained "control" over funds.

When did the individual becomes so incapable of managing his own funds? We do. No "managed" funds whatsoever. No HOAs and similar things. No Coops. Minimum control, i.e. county taxes and such, but NO control over our funds or REAL real estate by a "manager."

12 posted on 06/15/2023 11:54:56 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I wish my balance was down 30K. LOL.


13 posted on 06/15/2023 11:56:05 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Did they track each account or the average of all accounts? Was any of this caused by job shuffling and people cashing in or transferring their 401ks to IRAs?


14 posted on 06/15/2023 11:59:17 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

No one know what the future brings particularly given government mismanagement but I think one still has a shot if they invest long term. Of course that assumes one invests a decent amount into savings each month and leaves it alone. That is usually the hardest part - saving the money in the first place.

The historical average yearly return of the S&P 500 is 10.05% over the last 20 years, as of the end of April 2023. This assumes dividends are reinvested.

S&P 500 annual returns

2023 13.88%
2022 -19.44%
2021 26.89%
2020 16.26%
2019 28.88%
2018 -6.24%
2017 19.42%
2016 9.54%
2015 11.39%
2014 11.39%
2013 29.60%
2012 13.41%
2011 0.00%
2010 12.78%
2009 23.45%
2008 -38.49%
2007 3.53%
2006 13.62%
2005 3.00%
2004 8.99%
2003 26.38%
2002 -23.37%
2001 -13.04%
2000 -10.14%
1999 19.53%
1998 26.67%
1997 31.01%
1996 20.26%
1995 34.11%
1994 -1.54%


16 posted on 06/15/2023 12:26:42 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I wish my savings were only down $30K.


17 posted on 06/15/2023 12:33:23 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I moved mine to “cash heavy” at the start of Covid. I’ve been rebalancing but as I approach “retirement age” it’s going to be fairly conservative. It doesn’t have to grow 15% a year.


19 posted on 06/15/2023 1:18:49 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Vanguard is leading proponent of DEI crap. Dump them for an FDIC insured IRA CD.


20 posted on 06/15/2023 1:46:12 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

My AMD stock went down by 2/3rds at one time from about $155 in mid nov 2021 to about $54+ by early Oct 21 and now back up to $124+. It recently went to $132.83
The stock market went down due to congress spending $6.2 trillion and wrecking the economy.


22 posted on 06/15/2023 2:11:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I delayed my retirement to 2024 because of this


23 posted on 06/15/2023 2:29:25 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Today the news excitedly said the Dow was up.

And supposedly Biden would win re-election (yes, it was about a poll——sorry I mentioned the word. Cheating assumed.)


24 posted on 06/15/2023 2:29:47 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Vanguard = ESG, DEI.

A smoke screen for fraud.

401Ks diluted with poop.

Skimming accounts and pocketing funds.


25 posted on 06/15/2023 2:37:57 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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