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To: Erik Latranyi

RFK Jr. made a good point in one of his speeches.

After the emergence of China on the world stage their path and ours has been drastically different.

For the past 30 years, China has gone around the world building bridges in Africa, building roads in South America, building schools in the Middle East, building factories in Asia, etc... They tell the people, “If you are on our side will will give you tools to make your people’s lives better.”

They are certainly trying to spread their influence and gain control over the local populace but that is the method they have chosen.

On the other hand, the US has gone around the world selling arms to dictators, oligarchs and 3rd world shit holes to fight other countries and oppress their own citizens. We tell countries...”If you are on our side, we will help you kill people to maintain your power.”

You are right. We are the baddies.


17 posted on 06/14/2023 7:44:50 AM PDT by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: nitzy

> For the past 30 years, China has gone around the world building bridges in Africa… <

Yes. A couple of months ago I was listening to a radio interview of a young African man. China was building his city a modern road system. He was really impressed with that. What a good friend China is!

What this guy doesn’t realize is that some day the bill will come due. It might happen behind the scenes. And he might not even notice it. But China does nothing for free.


22 posted on 06/14/2023 7:56:12 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: nitzy
For the past 30 years, China has gone around the world building bridges in Africa, building roads in South America...You are right. We are the baddies.

Right, China is the good guy. Idiocy. China lends the money to nations who can't pay it back. Then ends up owning the project.

"The biggest concern is that several African countries will be left with huge debts and grandiose infrastructure that they cannot maintain and run profitably. I liken it to borrowing money to buy a Tesla when you don’t have adequate access to electricity"

Obert Hodzi of the University of Helsinki in Finland

Sri Lanka hands over port to China to pay off debt

Hambantota port was signed over to Beijing on a 99-year lease because Sri Lanka cannot repay Chinese loans it took out to build the port in the first place

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/asia/sri-lanka-hands-over-port-to-china-to-pay-off-debt-1.684606

23 posted on 06/14/2023 7:57:55 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: nitzy

If WW3 is now inevitable, the worst possible outcome may well be Washington’s victory.


50 posted on 06/14/2023 9:12:21 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: nitzy
For the past 30 years, China has gone around the world building bridges in Africa, building roads in South America, building schools in the Middle East, building factories in Asia, etc... They tell the people, “If you are on our side will will give you tools to make your people’s lives better.” They are certainly trying to spread their influence and gain control over the local populace but that is the method they have chosen.

Absolutely agree. Once China figured out (from the Clintons) that they can bribe public officials around the world to look the other way and to gain influence, they knew the path was clear for them to infiltrate every nation on Earth.

This is possible because we do not see China as "the bad guy" in the same way we saw the Soviet Union as the "bad guy".

Also, leftists changed from support of Soviet communism to Chinese communism. It was more profitable for them.

52 posted on 06/14/2023 9:14:45 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: nitzy
“If you are on our side will will give you tools to make your people’s lives better.”

For a price.

It is all loans, backed up by hard assets, such as ports which may be used for military purposes.

The Chinese do not forgive loans.

66 posted on 06/14/2023 9:43:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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