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Hundreds of Amazon workers walk out to protest return to office, climate
The Seattle Times ^ | 05/31/2023 | Lauren Rosenblatt

Posted on 06/01/2023 3:03:13 PM PDT by thegagline

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To: thegagline

“briefly walked off the job Wednesday”

well, if they “walked off the job” during their lunch hour, i don’t see much harm in it ...


41 posted on 06/01/2023 7:21:44 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: catnipman

Wait a minute ...aren’t these all the little wokesters who fell over themselves to wear masks and follow the government orders like obedient sheep?

Well, your “government” is now calling you back. And now they’ve ensured high gas prices and cost of living increases to boot!

And the cities you have to commute to will now be overrun with illegals pissing in the streets.

Wondering when the pain really sets in, how long it will take them to wise up.


42 posted on 06/01/2023 7:33:16 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: absalom01
But what companies learned over the past couple of years is that the "WFH" experiment, for most people, is an abject failure. Most people I know are back to work in person, and the last stragglers seem to be resigned to having to head back to the office as well.

The "WFH" experiment has been an enormous success for me. As soon as the stupid governor of my state declared my business "non-essential" and ordered my industry to shut down our offices, I immediately made plans to relocate elsewhere and move my entire operation into a walk-out basement office in my new home. Every employee was sent to work from home, and they've never been back. I even added a key staff member who lives 400 miles away.

I never stopped working during that COVID fiasco. I spent more time on the road visiting project sites and (for those who were willing) clients over the last three years than ever before.

The only loser in this mess was my former office landlord. Three years after the COVID fiasco started, the building was half vacant. I noticed last week that it is now on the market -- at a very steep discount from what it was worth in 2019.

I talk to peers in my STEM field all the time about this. Everyone seems to fall into three groups:

1. People who work from home and love it.

2. People who work in the office and hate it because (A) they are on a modified 2-3 day work schedule and they're sharing tiny cubicles with other employees; and (B) they hate pissing away 1-3 hours of their lives on those 2-3 days commuting to an urban dump.

3. People who work from home and feel like they're missing out on things in the office ... until they feel much better after talking to their peers in Group #2.

43 posted on 06/01/2023 7:35:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: absalom01
Some coders, probably, maybe some copywriters or other people who don’t have supervisory responsibility, or don’t work in teams.

Maybe a few coders. Who are loners. And they find it fun. They'll be fine with the remote work arrangement. Obviously, that's not most of us.

44 posted on 06/01/2023 7:38:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Alberta's Child

No question that there are many employees who prefer WFH, and in a few disciplines, that will work out for the company as well. To those I say “well done”!

But I’m thinking of my own company’s experience, and that of my customers and vendors. They’ve all been moving back to co-location for the same reasons:

1. It’s almost impossible to foster and transmit culture.
2. Young professionals need mentorship and development, and no one has really figured out a good way to do that remotely.
3. Contrary to what some WFH employees insist (at least to me, and others i’ve spoken to) quality and output of remote teams is lower than collated teams. It just takes longer to get the same results.

David Sacks had a good summary of other reasons he things WFH has an expiration date on Twitter. Worth checking out.

Even our San Francisco location is back to full time on site. We lost one person who just didn’t want to come back to the office, but tbh, we didn’t miss him. Surprisingly, the people most interested in full time on site are the new grads. They had two years of “remote learning”, which everyone hated, and which they think left them severely shortchanged vs in person labs and classes.

Just my experience.


45 posted on 06/01/2023 8:14:24 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: grey_whiskers

No, but the current fire sale pricing is tempting. Problem is that debt financing is so expensive as to be unaffordable, so it’s all PE in that market. And without debt, the ROI isn’t great, though patient money will probably be rewarded.

You want in?


46 posted on 06/01/2023 8:29:45 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Nailed it. Smart employers are allowing WFH. I agree it’s not for everyone. But I love it.


47 posted on 06/01/2023 8:32:55 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: thegagline
I doubt they actually did any work.

I would say fire them all and replace none.

If you see a slump in a department you know that person was actually doing a necessary job. You might want to consider replacing them.

But then Commiezon is evil and I hope it dies a horrible death so... don't follow my advice you hive of scum and villainy!

48 posted on 06/01/2023 8:33:33 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: thegagline

Well, Bye.


49 posted on 06/01/2023 9:10:37 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Freedumb
My sister received a broom handle from Amazon for her deck brush. The box from Amazon must have cost more then the broom handle!
How do they make money shipping like this?

Lacquered-Wood Broom Handle With Threaded Metal Tip.
The cost was $9.10
The total with s/h was $17.27
Blnk
50 posted on 06/01/2023 11:14:25 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: dragnet2

#35 California will be giving illegals $300 per week if a democrat lawmaker has her way.


51 posted on 06/01/2023 11:16:09 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: LibsRJerks

“Wondering when the pain really sets in, how long it will take them to wise up.”

sadly enough, i’m not sure very many of them will ever wise up, instead piling on enough rationalizations to sink a battleship, thus making it impossible to wise up without incurring a severe cognitive dissonance mental implosion ...


52 posted on 06/02/2023 4:36:05 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: BobL
That's part of it. Plus the company is too dense to separate those who can do their jobs from home from those who can't.

Everybody has to be equally miserable (except for the pigs, who are more equal than others) is an article of faith of the new world order.

53 posted on 06/02/2023 6:51:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: cgbg

Yep. You are so right. Some people can work remotely, some can’t. Amazing how the same people who simply can’t work from home will be the same people who hold endless meaningless meetings, gossip around the water cooler and are entitled little brats at the office, isn’t it?


54 posted on 06/02/2023 6:56:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Virtual work makes it possible for subject matter experts from around the country to work together on projects—the quality of such efforts is heads and shoulders above cubicle land.

Senior management learns in a hurry that most of the middle management bureaucracy is a total waste.


55 posted on 06/02/2023 7:20:06 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Eliza Pan, a former Amazon employee, told the group gathered in Seattle. “Tech workers are going to stand up.” ***
Astroturf.

56 posted on 06/02/2023 8:11:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpers are Republicans the same way Liz Cheney is a Republican.)
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To: cgbg

Just think what would happen if we made most of Washington, DC work that way.


57 posted on 06/02/2023 8:12:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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