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Is Trump the New Nixon?
nymag ^ | 05/31/2023 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 05/31/2023 12:09:29 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Among both his friends and his enemies, there is a tendency to think of Donald Trump as sui generis: a political figure, and certainly a president, unlike any other. In some respects, including his incessant mendacity and his tendency to publicly insult everyone who doesn’t bow down to him, he may truly be without equal in U.S. history and more comparable to foreign political strongmen from Juan Perón to Viktor Orban.

But at the New York Times, Ross Barkan suggests that as Trump pursues a comeback after his 2020 defeat (which, of course, he will not acknowledge), he may actually resemble a highly controversial 20th-century predecessor: Richard Nixon. The 37th president, like the 45th, survived periodic dismissal as a loser (Nixon narrowly lost the 1960 presidential contest to John F. Kennedy and then was upset two years later in a bid for the California governorship). And when Nixon made his comeback in 1968, he faced intraparty competition from both the left and the right, as well as from large-state governors just as formidable as today’s Trump rival Ron DeSantis. Barkan writes:

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Biden is the new Nixon only because Obama is out of office.


21 posted on 05/31/2023 12:42:25 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party - Dumbing Down America Since 1965.)
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To: dfwgator

I would have voted Scmidtz in 1972.


22 posted on 05/31/2023 12:43:01 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISvec M AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

My mag wishes.


23 posted on 05/31/2023 12:43:07 PM PDT by stanne
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To: cowboyusa

By policy Jfk was to the RIGHT of Nixon and probably to the Right of Trump!


24 posted on 05/31/2023 12:48:08 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISvec M AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: Skywise

Not comparable to Roosevelt.


25 posted on 05/31/2023 12:49:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cowboyusa

Question is though, would JFK have ‘evolved’ over time. Would he have been much different than the Swimmer turned out?


26 posted on 05/31/2023 12:49:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Well, he wouldn’t have been in power by then.


27 posted on 05/31/2023 12:54:36 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISvec M AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: Skywise
"Trump is far more comparable to Teddy Roosevelt than Nixon - but I understand you want to go for the cheap shots."

Roosevelt?! The guy who gave us the Income Tax, the death tax, out of control presidential executive orders, started the deep state via the FBI, FDA, and many other unconstitutional bureaucracies, and initiated America’s destruction by getting us into bed with the biased media?!

That's a pretty low blow there.

28 posted on 05/31/2023 1:08:53 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: Skywise; jimfr; nickcarraway

I forgot about this for a second in my above post. Teddy also was the first president in U.S. history to implement price controls.

Trump has precious little in common with someone that has so many left wing policies.


29 posted on 05/31/2023 1:12:43 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I feel the same way.


30 posted on 05/31/2023 1:13:03 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Maybe he is like Trump.


31 posted on 05/31/2023 1:14:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cowboyusa

I remember my father calling Nixon a Communist once. My parents voted for the conservative candidate in the 1962 gubernatorial primary in California, not for Nixon.


32 posted on 05/31/2023 1:26:53 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Nomad577

https://www.prageru.com/video/why-did-the-democratic-south-become-republican

No, Nixon did not create “the Southern Strategy”. You are buying into the communist party myth of the “great party switch”.


33 posted on 05/31/2023 1:42:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I have a question, too.

Is New York Magazine the new wet garbage wrap? Formerly the bottom liner for bird cages.


34 posted on 05/31/2023 2:28:30 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Is Biden the new Fredo Corleone?


35 posted on 05/31/2023 3:43:42 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: dfwgator

Not *Ron* Vibbentrop,eh?


36 posted on 05/31/2023 3:45:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“No not head of Gestapo at all, I make joke!”


37 posted on 05/31/2023 3:46:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica; Skywise; jimfr; nickcarraway

I will say-I know TR did un-conservative things, but I have found it is hard not to admire him.

He did back up his outsized ego with enthusiastic and aggressive action, much the same as Trump does, and he believed in a strong America, or at least the appearance of it. He was, in many ways, quintessentially American.

Once I realized how anti-capitalist he frequently was (or appeared to want to look) it did take the shine off him a bit for me.

I had a much worse outlook on Truman as well, as I delved deeper into his war on McCarthy.


38 posted on 05/31/2023 8:07:25 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I think you’re confusing Teddy with his cousin FDR. The 16th, 17th Amendments, along with the Federal Reserve Act all happened in 1913 under Wilson, long after Teddy had departed the scene.

Having served out McKinley’s term and then been reelected in 1904, in 1908 he passed the baton to Taft, his hand-picked successor, and then changed his mind in 1912. When he didn’t get the Republican nod he formed his “Bull Moose” party that split the R vote allowing Wilson to take over.


39 posted on 06/01/2023 2:29:00 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: AustinBill
I am certainly not confusing Theodore for his cousin Franklin.

The income tax was a dead letter(killed by SCOTUS) until Teddy started going around whining about it in 1906 in some of his major speeches. Then he sent out his henchman Taft to finish the job with a major speech to congress in 1909. By the time of the 1913 election, somewhere around 30 states have already ratified the 16th amendment. At best you might be able to blame 3 or so states on Wilson.

Wilson was devastating as president, however we shouldn't foolishly misstate the clear record on a plain to see calendar. The 16th amendment is all Bull Moose progressivism. There is nobody else to blame.


40 posted on 06/01/2023 2:55:16 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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