Posted on 05/29/2023 10:07:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Semifinal Details
If you wish to wade through 99 pages of details, here's the full text of the Allegedly Final Debt-Ceiling Deal.
The Wall Street Journal has a synopsis in Biden, McCarthy Agree to Final Details of Debt-Ceiling Deal
With some conservative Republicans in both chambers signaling initial opposition to the deal, Biden urged both chambers of Congress to approve the agreement and said McCarthy would have sufficient votes in the Republican-led House to secure passage.
He also sought to quell concerns among Democrats over some of the deal’s provisions, such as additional work requirements for certain government safety-net programs, and rejected criticism from some progressive lawmakers that the agreement would let vulnerable people go hungry. “That’s a ridiculous assertion,” Biden said.
Republican Dissent
I am hearing the “deal” is for a $4 trillion increase in the debt limit. IF that is true, I don’t need to hear anything else. No one claiming to be a conservative could justify a YES vote. — Congressman Bob Good (@RepBobGood) May 28, 2023
Essentially What the Democrats Wanted
We will not back down, for the sake of the country.
#HoldTheLine https://t.co/06NZqIwKDT— Rep. Ralph Norman (@RepRalphNorman) May 25, 2023
Trojan Horse View
pic.twitter.com/6YpAObr4B2 — Rep. Ken Buck (@RepKenBuck) May 28, 2023
Democrats Got Everything They Wanted
This pretty much says it all.
Democrats got everything they wanted with this bill and don’t have to defend their reckless spending prior to the 2024 election. It’s a win for them. https://t.co/gtuHxQaXad — Rep. Ken Buck (@RepKenBuck) May 28, 2023
Deal is Insanity
This “deal” is insanity.
A $4T debt ceiling increase with virtually no cuts is not what we agreed to.
Not gonna vote to bankrupt our country. The American people deserve better. — Rep. Ralph Norman (@RepRalphNorman) May 28, 2023
"A $4T debt ceiling increase with virtually no cuts is not what we agreed to."
Democrats Oddly Calm
Notice how oddly calm Democrats are for a change? This is why… 👇 https://t.co/1vnYIOqieU — Rep. Ralph Norman (@RepRalphNorman) May 28, 2023
"Notice how oddly calm Democrats are for a change? This is why…"
Framework for a Deal
Despite the WSJ headline, this will not be the final deal. First, the bill has to clear the House. I suspect some House revisions.
Even if not, the Senate is also highly likely to make changes which will then have to be approved by the House.
Complete Surrender
I added Peter's "Surrender" Tweet to my post
I missed the age lift on the Food Stamp provision. He missed the "Big Trap"
I am sure we both missed details only Democrat lobbyists understand. https://t.co/vXPc1PYsn8 https://t.co/HczZuAFI9O — Mike "Mish" Shedlock (@MishGEA) May 29, 2023
What's Currently Inside?
Understanding the Trap
The above points are quotes from the WSJ plus my comments in brackets[].
Points seven, eight, and nine are part of the trap. Point nine will be debated in the Senate. Expect fireworks.
Both sides seem to be in favor of points seven and eight. But one side is sure to be wrong.
With Biden as President, it's easy to see who fell into the trap. Democrats will speed up and approve every clean energy boondoggle imaginable at great speed.
Republicans will have every project rejected at great speed.
This situation will reverse if Republicans win the White House in 2024. But a lot of boondoggles will be approved in the interim.
Best Part of the Deal and Overall Analysis
The best part of the deal are points four and five. A no earmark provision needs to be added to those points.
But Democrats get far more out of this than Republicans.
Hold the Line
We will not back down, for the sake of the country. #HoldTheLine https://t.co/06NZqIwKDT — Rep. Ralph Norman (@RepRalphNorman) May 25, 2023
35 GOP House Representatives will likely vote against this deal. Republicans only have four votes to spare.
Expect More Boondoggles Like These
Question and Answer of the Day
Q: Will This Pass?
A: Yes, easily.
Don't be surprised if more Democrats vote for this version than Republicans. Look no further than trap points seven and eight above to understand why.
In return for minor cutbacks in spending, and a token roll-in work requirement for food stamps, Democrats will get to rubber stamp every pet clean energy boondoggle they seek.
I mentioned this in a previous post and still have not seen it mentioned elsewhere. Don't be surprised if this deal costs McCarthy his job as Speaker of the House.
Republicans are not serious.
McConnell, McCarthy and McDaniel.
Nuff said.
You are right.
I finally left the worthless GOP in 2021. There are no more political solutions.
At the end of the voting, DJT *owned* mcCarthy. Still does.
Therefore, I lean towards this being choreographed to not pass. After all, a failed vote is as good as no deal, with the added "benefit" it is controlled demolition of the GOP DNC and the dollar. All need to fail to usher in a PM-backed currency and restore elections.
DJT is taking a page from Rahm Emmanuel's don't let a crisis go to waste, and create one as needed if you don't have one.
What a RINO DUMBASS!!
“Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
100 years ago, our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.”
Charlie Reese (Feb. 1984)
BINGO! He should take a lesson from Nancy on how to GET WHAT YOU WANT!! Or maybe you DID get what you wanted, Kevin....huh?
McCarthy has to go. His job is simple. He was elected to do the bidding of the people who voted for him. He needs to do what that majority wants. When he doesn’t it simply means elections have no meaning. We have to stop electing pussies that lack the confidence to do what people elected them to do. Are there any real men left in America?
When nothing changes, nothing changes.
Putting aside this week’s fiasco, McCarthy’s Speakership and this congress in general: I am reflecting on the impossibly absurd state of the Republican Party.
The Republicans were once trying to be noted for not increasing the debt and properly spending no more than was raised by taxes. This was lost a few decades back in a manner that is impossible to fathom.
With the perfect tool in hand, the debt ceiling, the Republicans somehow failed repeatedly to use it — in fact, they let it paralyze them. How in the world could this situation have developed except for a portion of the Republican Party that were secretly spend crazy themselves? It couldn’t. They are all liars.
Nah.
McCarthy has 214 Democrat votes to play with, and in the end only 5-8 Republicans to vote “no”.
There is no Republican alternative to McCarthy, if he is removed the next Speaker will be Hakeem Jeffries.
You are wrong.
The “GOP scum” have proven very useful to the project of the complete transformation of the United States of America, and it is unbelievable that people here keep advocating for sending them back for more.
“Choreographed not to pass”
It only needs 4 Republican votes to pass, and it has 200.
When? 1924?
Yep, it was January I think but they had caved by March.
This was obvious. Wrote the scenario weeks ago, check my history. He will not lose his soeakership
McCarthy needs to realize you can’t negotiate with irrational, unstable people. The Democrats are the “poison pill” for America. Their goal is to bankrupt this country in order to create chaos which will lead to a new world order (Socialism), with them (The Democrats) at the top. They will use this money we don’t have to buy votes along the way. He needs to understand their mentality.
As more news surfaces of what we see as complete capitulation they will peel off. Alternatively, they out themselves as absolute uniparty
Gee, you should be a detective, or a private investigator! Very good at solving mysteries! /s
Budget deal is a NOTHING BURGER.
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