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Prigozhin: We fought in Bakhmut against superior forces, destroyed about 50,000 Ukrainian Armed Forces and wounded up to 70,000
Telegram ^ | 5/24/23 | Webb Union

Posted on 05/24/2023 8:25:55 AM PDT by Kazan

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To: Kazan

So how did Kazan get his name. I think it is because he coes from the town of Kazan and here is where his probable home town is from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazan


41 posted on 05/24/2023 10:48:20 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Kazan

Seems to be confirmed by the earlier story out of France that they estimate 40,000-60,000 overall, whom they trained, are departed.


42 posted on 05/24/2023 10:52:31 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: dforest

You sound like prigozhin. Hes been having the cheap Russian vodka


43 posted on 05/24/2023 11:36:15 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: PGR88

Russia took Bakhmut after 10 months of fighting?

Weren’t they supposedly the 2nd most powerful military in the world?


44 posted on 05/24/2023 11:37:24 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: fireman15

The Russians were the larger force.

And despite being more numerous they took 10 months.


45 posted on 05/24/2023 11:38:35 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: JonPreston

Russia had 200k troops vs 126,000 Ukrainian troops.

The Kremlin lies and that is apparent in your posts


46 posted on 05/24/2023 11:40:05 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: imabadboy99

The Kremlin is using Chechen jihadis to kill white Christians you say


47 posted on 05/24/2023 11:40:58 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

You’re Polish, so you make a lot of mistakes.


48 posted on 05/24/2023 11:48:56 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ Free kiryandil )
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To: Cronos
YOU and your ilk believed EVERYTHING he said when he claimed Wagner was short on ammo and pulling out of Bakhmut. That's point.

Now, you don't want to believe him even though Wagner cleared Bakhmut out despite the fact Zelensky throw everything he had into keeping it.

You neocons provide the sane people here with daily laughs.

49 posted on 05/24/2023 12:11:33 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Magnum44
Damn right we're celebrating. Not that the Russians are winning but that our oligarch class that wanted this war is losing.

Yes, Soros is losing. The WEF is losing. The Biden crime family is losing.

Get it?

50 posted on 05/24/2023 12:12:55 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Magnum44

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51 posted on 05/24/2023 1:36:53 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: Cronos
And despite being more numerous they took 10 months.

And we spent 20 years in Afghanistan,
Our involvement in Vietnam started in the 1950s and didn't end until 1973.
And lets not forget about Iraq.

And no, the Russians have not been more numerous than the Ukrainian military at any time during this conflict.

I respect your opinion and expect more from you that some others here.

“The West is desperate to avoid having any meaningful discussion or review of the Battle of Bakhmut because it was such a massive loss. Think about it — a small “private” paramilitary force backed by former Chef with no military experience, forced Ukraine's NATO-trained and supplied Army to retreat.”

“This is a very important point. Conventional military doctrine stipulates that an army attacking an entrenched force will need at least three times more soldiers than the defending force.. Looks like Russia is very unconventional. The Wagner Group's 32,000 fighters defeated a Ukrainian force that employed over 120,000 troops, inflicting 70% casualties on the Ukrainians. Russia is writing new chapters for military academies and war colleges on how to attack and defeat a numerically superior force entrenched in fortifications. Russia was not fighting Afghan shepherds or Iraqi tribesmen armed with AK-47s. It faced off with a NATO proxy force, equipped with modern weaponry, and beat it. There is not enough lipstick in the world to paint this pig and make it look pretty.”

https://sonar21.com/judge-napolitano-and-i-discuss-the-aftermath-of-bakhmut-and-i-discover-why-the-cia-is-in-trouble/

How anyone imagine a worse embarrassment from the Biden administration than the Afghanistan debacle? But we definitely have it here. In 2021 Russia had a GDP of $1.779 Trillion, while the United States had a GDP of $23.32 Trillion 13 times larger and the European Union had a GDP of $17.177 Trillion. Combined our economies were over 23 times larger than the Russians when you add in our other "allies".

So how can what is basically a 3rd world country stand up to all of this wealth and power and not only not be crushed but thrive and actually be winning this conflict. Western economies including our own are being pushed toward a deep recession and maybe worse largely as a result of the Ukrainian situation. It is because of very bad leadership on our side. The West and especially the United States has some of the worst leaders in history. And this is not just the Biden administration... it goes much deeper than that. After repeated failures our influence in the world is taking a much bigger hit than it has previously. 90% of the world lives in countries that are completely ignoring Western Sanctions. And a bunch of our "allies" are cheating as well. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tilakdoshi/2023/04/27/peace-breaks-out-in-the-middle-east-as-us-influence-declines-from-opec-to-opec/?sh=4b733d2cde9f

52 posted on 05/24/2023 1:50:40 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Kazan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazan

Kazan is a city in Russia unless I am wrong I think this is where Kazan ion this site is from and maybe working there supporting Putin and Russia.


53 posted on 05/24/2023 2:53:47 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

Is this yet another one of your IDs here, Speedy along with PIF?


54 posted on 05/24/2023 6:47:31 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Magnum44
But that war is not what I want. I am not cheer leading the death, but I do put blame for this square on the invaders. Their losses are well deserved. The future for russia has been made very bleak by Putins own hand.

Trump is probably right. Get a cease fire signed in 24 hours. Pledge to give Ukraine F-16s. Build up their Air Force. Give Ukraine 500 billion dollars (250 from EU and 250 from USA). The Russians will agree to it because they will attempt to rearm and attack again in a couple of years. But the Ukrainians would agree because we'll give them more money and planes. They might run out if the West decided to cut them off in a year.

55 posted on 05/24/2023 6:49:47 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: JonPreston

Because you are a liar?


56 posted on 05/25/2023 5:29:30 PM PDT by Dat
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To: Dat

Yet another Canadian coward.


57 posted on 05/25/2023 5:32:46 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ Free kiryandil )
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To: fireman15

That is a dishonest argument. NATO doesn’t have any troops there. You are trying to use rhetorical sleight of hand.


58 posted on 05/25/2023 5:36:26 PM PDT by Dat
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To: JonPreston

Yet another Russian liar.


59 posted on 05/25/2023 5:37:03 PM PDT by Dat
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To: Dat

Just another gutless Canadian sissy, too frightened to go fight.


60 posted on 05/25/2023 5:38:26 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ Free kiryandil )
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