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" In one case, energy provider Xcel told a Minnesota customer it would take 15 years to connect a rooftop solar system to the company's grid."
1 posted on 05/07/2023 6:19:43 AM PDT by CFW
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2 posted on 05/07/2023 6:26:53 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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You don’t buy solar panels to pass on electricity to others.

You buy solar to use the electricity for yourself.


3 posted on 05/07/2023 6:29:36 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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ROTFL! Okay, so the panels are worthless but look at it this way. You are helping the penguins and Cola bears and helping the Swedish Meatball Princess buy a couple more cars. The UN third worlders love you too!


4 posted on 05/07/2023 6:37:35 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We didn't have all this violence when we had God in our schools and AMERICA WAS GREAT!)
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So why cant she connect the panels to her own circuit and thereby use less utility wattage? If she did, would she have to reimburse somebody for a subsidy?


9 posted on 05/07/2023 6:48:54 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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“simple fix”

Using solar panels is practical in rural China and Africa.

American homes are larger and generally have not been designed for solar.

The simple fix is duct tape on brain dead Biden’s mouth and around his wrists.


12 posted on 05/07/2023 6:57:32 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I have the misfortune of looking at solar panels on a neighbor’s roof here in Florida. What an ugly mess.

I haven’t spoken to Johnny yet, but I assume his system does what he would want. He is in the roofing & solar business.

I assume they are grid-connected.


13 posted on 05/07/2023 7:03:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“Minnesota customer...rooftop solar”

Stupid people with big money are all too common.


14 posted on 05/07/2023 7:06:34 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Solar panels should be used in China to replace coal power and not in the USA (or Northern Europe) to replace far cleaner natural gas power.

Solar panels should never be imported from a coal-burning country into a natural gas-burning country.

THINK of the polar bears.


18 posted on 05/07/2023 7:12:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I spoke to a neighbor who got solar panels on his roof. He was all excited about the tax credit, interest free loan and helping the environment (cough).

I did the math and even with zero percent interest, he was paying almost double for the solar panels than he was paying for his electric bill. He said that they would only last the ten years that his loan was for and then would have to pay it all over again to replace them.


20 posted on 05/07/2023 7:14:35 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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Mine were installed and activated last year.
Got a HELL of a tax return a few weeks ago.
Panels are working great, and the net metering is making my bill almost nonexistent.


23 posted on 05/07/2023 7:17:14 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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“loans”

If you need to borrow, your solar economics are inferior to those who can self-finance (especially when banks were paying <1% interest).


39 posted on 05/07/2023 7:53:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“Renewable Energy” has been a scam from the get-go. We get solicitors in our neighborhood from time to time trying to get us to “join our neighbors” and install solar. I inform them that they are trespassing and need to leave our property immediately.


40 posted on 05/07/2023 7:53:50 AM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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So...Solyndra 2023?


44 posted on 05/07/2023 8:13:13 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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For the most part, Solar for powering your home with all the goodies is a big scam that will NEVER work.

I solar powered my Well because it would cost over $100K to bring electricity up my mountain to my well. I have 3 out buildings and my well all with Electricity from my Solar Setup, for my situation it works great and I can use all the power I want during the DAY! But at night time about the only thing you can use is Lights, a TV and keep the fridge going.

8 350 Watt 24 volt Panels $125 Each NEW!
1 MPPT 60 amp Charge Controller $175 on EBAY NEW
8 225 Amp 6 volt Golf Cart Batteries $90 each at Costco NEW
1 Magnum MS4024PAE 240 Volt Grid Tie Inverter $2500
misc boxes,breakers,wiring,... A few hundred dollars.

my system puts out 50 amps DC solar power during the day and the well uses 84 amps DC, so the batteries never really go down in voltage much and are fully recharged in less than an hour after the well shuts off, The well is setup on a float valve on a 10,000 gallon tank and runs about 40 minutes per cycle.

This runs everything flawlessly but it isn’t designed to run ANYTHING or very much at Night because of the storage capabilities, If I made it 80-100 Batteries and 40-50 panels it would run a house, but it wouldn’t be very cost effective.


45 posted on 05/07/2023 8:14:35 AM PDT by eyeamok
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For me, just having the panels on my house is sufficient (along with my Tesla, always parked in the driveway), as that SENDS THE MESSAGE to others that I care about the future of the planet. Hooking the panels to the grid doesn’t help with that message (and costs money), so why bother doing it?


48 posted on 05/07/2023 8:23:47 AM PDT by BobL
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Well, for me, at $50-100/month electric bills, depending on AC season, it’d take a long, long time for that $30,000 solar installation to pay for itself, assuming that it could even generate enough electricity to meet my demand. And that’s not including the cost of future maintenance (battery replacement, cleaning of panels, etc.). And borrowing $30,000 isn’t free either - there’s interest on that debt.

If you’re going to go with solar, at least do the homework first.


50 posted on 05/07/2023 8:28:53 AM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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I read recently that Westinghouse is working to build small scale (300 Megawatt) nuclear power stations.

Hopefully, we won’t be making nearly every house in the USA into an eyesore.


51 posted on 05/07/2023 8:29:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“Trust, but verify.”

Ronald Reagan


52 posted on 05/07/2023 8:44:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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A friend down the street bought a Tesla. He then bought a Tesla solar system with two power walls. His system was turned on by power company almost immediately. He has an app on his phone that he can press a button and shut off the grid and be running completely off his batteries.

I don’t have a Tesla, but am considering a Tesla solar system like his.


54 posted on 05/07/2023 9:01:06 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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Stacie took out loans to install $30,000 worth of panels on her roof.

So how long does it take before those panels have paid for themselves in energy cost savings to her?

59 posted on 05/07/2023 9:28:50 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Mother said don't put beans in your ears)
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