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To: BroJoeK
Of course, you realize, don't you, that Thomas Jefferson's "Democratic" party got its name because Jefferson was all in favor of expanding the voter rolls to include not just property owners -- which had enfranchised women and freed-blacks -- but all men "free, white and 21". Jefferson's new laws which expanded the vote to all adult men also disenfranchised property owning women and African Americans.

And Jefferson was 100% successful in that his Democratic Party dominated US national politics until they declared secession and war on the United States in 1861.

BroJoeK, I'm surprised at you. Normally you are more accurate in the bits of history you want to relate. You apparently have fallen for the old claim that Jefferson founded the Democrat party. This is completely wrong. Jefferson's party was the Democratic-Republican party. Andrew Jackson is the actual founder of the Democrat party.

And by the way he was anti-secession, so I guess that puts him on your side. :)

63 posted on 05/04/2023 6:36:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp: "BroJoeK, I'm surprised at you.
Normally you are more accurate in the bits of history you want to relate.
You apparently have fallen for the old claim that Jefferson founded the Democrat party.
This is completely wrong.
Jefferson's party was the Democratic-Republican party."

Naw, Jefferson called himself a small-r republican, but his Federalist opponents called his political party Democratic-Republicans, because Jefferson supported the "democratic" French Revolution -- "democratic" then referring to the French guillotines and the blood of tyrants.
And Jeffersonians liked it so much, they kept the name "Democratics" and dropped "Republicans".
Within a few years they also referred to themselves as "The Democracy".

Nearly all the people who later became Jacksonian Democratics had earlier been Jeffersonian Democratics.

Yes, Jefferson's name "Republican" did survive his Democratic party, even in Jefferson's lifetime.
Virginia Congressman and Senator John Randolf called his faction of anti-Jeffersonians the "Old Republicans", meaning they still supported Strict Construction of the Constitution, long after President Jefferson himself had left Strict Construction to become a typical Democratic Party expansionist of Federal powers.


64 posted on 05/04/2023 9:19:51 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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