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To: Petrosius

Look, it’s been a DC globalist satrapy since Obama’s gang got there in 2014. Even though you paid no attention when Trump got impeached for turning over the rock the DC globalists were divvying up Ukraine under, the Russians weren’t that foolish. The Russians gave absolute, unequivocal warning of what they would do if NATO membership for Ukraine and resultant NATO hordes on their border, 300 miles from Moscow, was imminent. They carried through on those warnings. They have given the same unequivocal warnings of what they will do to protect themselves from NATO when DC’s proxy gloves come off. When it’s NATO v Russia, they will be decimated conventionally. The Russians are well aware of that. They have made it crystal clear that they will immediately resort to nukes. You trust in VegPres and the globalists, I look at the reality of the situation.


80 posted on 05/01/2023 2:10:33 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned; Petrosius
hardspunned: "The Russians gave absolute, unequivocal warning of what they would do if NATO membership for Ukraine and resultant NATO hordes on their border, 300 miles from Moscow, was imminent."

And yet... and yet.. NATO membership for Ukraine was never "imminent", even though both NATO and Russia had joined plans for membership in the early 1990s, and Vlad the Invader had discussed NATO membership for Russia with our own Pres. Slick William in 2000.
By the early 2000s Vlad had lead Russia off the path to NATO membership, though still very friendly, while Ukraine and other Eastern European countries stayed on the path -- or tried to.

So, obviously, you've been drinking the Russian propaganda Koolaid and it's rotted your brain and that's why you don't know that NATO membership had nothing to do with Vlad the Invader's seizing and annexing Crimea in 2014.
In 2022 Vlad did mention NATO expansion, however, there was no NATO expansion near Russia after 2014.

Here are the reasons Vlad the Invader gave for his 2022 "special military operations":

  1. NATO eastward expansion (there was none since 2014)

  2. Genocide against Russians in Ukraine (absurd)

  3. Ukraine is not a real country (Ukraine was formally recognized by Russia many times since 1990)

  4. Ukraine might have nuclear weapons (there's no evidence of that)

  5. Russians want to rebuild the old Soviet/Tsarist Empire, to include Eastern European countries (then Vlad's Invasion must be defeated)
hardspunned: "When it’s NATO v Russia, they will be decimated conventionally.
The Russians are well aware of that.
They have made it crystal clear that they will immediately resort to nukes.
You trust in VegPres and the globalists, I look at the reality of the situation."

The reality of this situation is that you've gone insane from drinking way too much Russian propaganda Koolaid.
The truth is, throughout many decades of the Cold War the old Soviets always threatened nuclear war, but they were never, ever insanely suicidal.
And Vladimir Putin is the epitome of an Old Soviet, KGB.

The most likely result now is that Ukraine will eventually join both the EU and NATO, and Vlad the Invader will have achieved the very things he claimed his invasions were intended to stop.

83 posted on 05/02/2023 1:28:09 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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