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To: Its All Over Except ...

“There is no justification for any country saying they have decided to make themselves world cop. “

No. This is an “honor” that, historically, has simply happened. Its never chosen, not deliberately. In the cases we can examine, historically, it’s very rarely an explicit goal. And since it happens across many political and economic lifetimes, its never really something anyone strives for. Its recognised after the fact.

“Neocon” is a political term. One doesn’t have to be a neocon to understand history. One can despise neocons, despise the US, despise modernity, believe in communism or a flat earth, but still understand the fact of the Pax Americana.


74 posted on 05/01/2023 11:30:30 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya; Its All Over Except ...
buwaya: "“Neocon” is a political term.
One doesn’t have to be a neocon to understand history.
One can despise neocons, despise the US, despise modernity, believe in communism or a flat earth, but still understand the fact of the Pax Americana."

Exactly right.
As used by posters like "Its All Over Except ..." the word "neocon" is a totally meaningless insult and nothing more.

In point of fact, to be a "neocon" you must first have been a traditional national security Democrat who believes, as former Democrat Ronald Reagan said, "I didn't leave the Democrats, they left me."

Conservative Republicans were always strong on national defense against expansionist Communism.
With Communism removed as a major threat in the 1990s, conservatives began to feel that "containment" and "MAD" were no longer necessary.

But today, Russian and Chinese Communist expansionism is back, and so it's time for us to revisit those old ideas of "containment" and "MAD".
That's not "neocon" because conservatives have always favored a strong-enough national defense.

89 posted on 05/02/2023 3:52:51 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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