Posted on 05/01/2023 5:15:15 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
Russian missiles have struck warehouses reportedly storing ammunition at a railway depot in the Ukrainian city of Pavlohrad, in an apparent effort to slow Kyiv’s preparations for its much anticipated counteroffensive expected to start shortly.
Video posted on social media showed secondary detonations amid a significant blaze at the site of the strike, which came amid overnight missile launches against a number of Ukrainian cities by Russian strategic bombers. ...
The size of the fire in Pavlohrad suggests Russia may have hit an important arms depot and comes after Ukraine’s recent attack on an oil storage facility in Sevastopol, Crimea. ...
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Sorry, but we've covered this ground before, here.
A random conversation between diplomats does not constitute having engineered the 2014 Euro-Maidan Revolution, or the impeachment (not "coup") of the treasonous Russian stooge, Victor Yanukovych.
Everybody but Putin's propagandists know that the Russians started the war. They invaded parts of Ukraine in 2014 and again in 2022.
Since when it is the responsibility of the United States to stop tyrannical dictators from launching wars and engaging in terrorism?
By your logic you failed because you didn't stop some liquor store in Texas from getting robbed.
And yet you post pro Russian propaganda constantly.
thanks for posting honest news.
we don’t get a lot of it here thanks to all the trolls.
not our monkeys,not our circus...
US taxpayers deservre a break from this fraudulent warmongering
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there’s a little more on the strikes at mil summary channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOSMtyV6AiE
He doesn’t care, and, yet he still posts on a thread about it.
Nonsense, what DJT correctly points out is that had he been in charge, indeed, when he was President, there was and would be no Russian invasion of Ukraine.
That in no way justifies, excuses or makes right Vlad the Invader's assault on and annexing of parts of Ukraine.
Churchill said the same thing about World War Two, and that doesn't make Chamberlain et al responsible for starting it.
And I'm telling you this factually: if you are inclined to believe even one word of Russian propaganda, then you are sick in the head, or you are being paid, and I hope well paid, for it.
Bulwyf: "Your hero Biden is in deep kaka."
In my humble opinion, the Biden Crime Family should all be in jail for very long sentences, for crimes against the United States.
But none of that excuses or justifies Vlad the Invader for invading Ukraine, twice!!
Excellent, well said!
I may be too cynical, or just realistic, but I am certain Democrats, being Democrats and so quick to jump into wars, almost as quick to surrender, Democrats will turn against the war in the very moment they can figure out how to blame Ukraine's defeat on Republicans.
Mark my words.
“Since when it is the responsibility of the United States to stop tyrannical dictators from launching wars and engaging in terrorism?”
Because that is the point of post-WW2 US grand strategy. Its a policy that goes back three generations now. That is, if the tyrannical dictator is dangerous enough. Putin et al qualify.
The US said, explicitly and implicitly, that it would prevent WW2 from happening again.
Propaganda is what comes out of Russia and there is nothing truthful in their words.
Virtually everybody else is trying to discover the real truth behind the lies.
Even pro-Ukrainian sources will tell as much of the truth as they've learned, including bad news.
As for doing nothing, as you recommend, the quote often attributed to Edmund Burk, or John Stuart Mill, applies here:
Where did I say do nothing? Do lots! Do it in your own backyard! Your own communities! Our countries are in a damn death spiral! For the love of God! Wake up!
Fools, fools all who are supporting war overseas.
https://twitter.com/operativno_ZSU/status/1653039792366538753
Pyrotechnicians of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine seized an Kh-55 cruise missile in the Kyiv region.With the help of a pyrotechnic machine, the heavy-type rocket was transported and destroyed by controlled detonation at a special training ground.
I put the responsibility for this war exactly where it belongs, on the destabilization created when the Obama/Soros gang took over Ukraine in 2014. The DC warmongers responsible for the destabilization of the last 16 unnecessary NATO dominos could take their weapons home as well. Then the Ukes and Russians could live in peace as they were before the Obama/Soros gang overthrew the legitimate, nonaligned government. We both know the DC globalists and their neocon stooges won’t do that.
Let’s not pretend that Russia is the only one putting out propaganda. Our own media puts out propaganda all day long and they don’t even try to conceal that anymore.
And there are at least two posters here on FR who appear to have full-time jobs proliferating Ukraine propaganda. They post daily threads and reply to themselves or a designated acolyte over and over to keep the spam in the newsfeed.
You absolutely want us to do nothing in Ukraine, and that is why the words apply here:
Sure, no doubt, things are plenty bad, but still not so bad that good Republican leadership, such as a Pres. DJT would provide, can't reverse course and fix the problems.
I don't think the current insanities here can or will continue much longer.
In the meantime, it remains imperative that we help shut down Vlad the Invader's adventure in Russian Empire building.
The bad consequences of Russian military victory over Ukraine cannot be reversed nearly as easily as electing a new President and Congress next year.
Do you understand the difference?
Oh Trump is going to help? You might want to ask him who’s responsible for the war there and why it started.
Sure, of course, I understand that, everybody wants to spin the truth to support their own causes -- emphasize the positive, ignore the negative, etc.
But there is a qualitative difference in Russian propaganda that anyone not married to it can immediately spot, and which we see all too much of on Ukraine related Free Republic threads.
By comparison to Moscow, Joseph Goebbels himself was the height of sophisticated information management.
Allegra: "And there are at least two posters here on FR who appear to have full-time jobs proliferating Ukraine propaganda.
They post daily threads and reply to themselves or a designated acolyte over and over to keep the spam in the newsfeed."
Maybe, but how many Russian propagandists are there here?
I'd say they (you?) outnumber pro-Ukrainian posters by several to one.
The difference, in my experience, is that pro-Russians almost always post outrageous lies, while pro-Ukrainians try their best to stick to the truth.
That should tell us something.
Lol! I already told you to go get Trump’s position. Cheers though and good day. I’ve got things to do locally which matter.
I've heard Trump talk on this, and what he means by that is, responsible in the same way that Neville Chamberlan was "responsible" for starting World War Two -- Chamberlan's weak appeasement policies only whetted Hitler's appetite for more conquests.
So saying Chamberlan could have prevented the Second World War (as Churchill maintained) is not the same thing as saying Chamberlan was guilty of starting it!!
Vlad the Invader is no fool, he's former Soviet KGB, and he wants to rebuild the old Russian Empire.
If he is successful in Ukraine, plenty of others (i.e., China) will follow his example.
We would not like the world that results, I promise you that.
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