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Poland’s Top Military Official Shared Some Unpopular Truths About The NATO-Russian Proxy War
Zubu Brothers ^ | April 29, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 04/29/2023 2:20:28 PM PDT by Kazan

Nobody should doubt Chief of the General Staff of the Polish Armed Forces General Rajmund Andrzejczak’s intentions or suspect that he’s a so-called “Russian agent” since he sincerely wants the West to win its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine, but he’s also very worried that it might lose unless his side acknowledges the unpopular truths that he just shared since the failure to do so could doom Kiev to defeat.

The last time that Chief of the General Staff of the Polish Armed Forces General Rajmund Andrzejczak generated media attention was in late January after he elaborated on how formidable Russia remained at the time, but now he’s once again making headlines for building upon this assessment. Poland’s Do Rzecy reported on his recent participation in a strategy session with the National Security Bureau, during which time he shared some unpopular truths about the NATO-Russian proxy war in Ukraine.

Andrzejczak said that the situation doesn’t look good for Kiev at all when considering the economic dynamics of this conflict, with him drawing particular attention to finance, infrastructure issues, social issues, technology, and food production, et al. From this vantage point, he predicts that Russia can continue conducting its special operation for 1-2 more years before it begins to feel any structural pressure to curtail its activities.

By contrast, Kiev is burning through tens of billions of dollars’ worth of aid, yet it still remains very far away from achieving its maximum objectives. Andrzejczak candidly said that Poland’s Western partners aren’t properly assessing the challenges that stand in the way of Ukraine’s victory, including those connected to the “race of logistics”/ war of attrition” that the NATO chief declared in mid-February. Another serious problems concerns refugees’ unwillingness to return to their homeland anytime soon.

These economic, logistical, and population factors combined to convince him that he must urgently raise the greatest possible awareness of these problems in order to “give Ukraine a chance to build its secure future”, which in the context that he shared this motivation, is a euphemism for even more Western aid. He elaborated by adding that “As a soldier, I am also obliged to present the most unfavorable and difficult to implement variant, giving a field to all those who can and should help Ukraine.”

Nobody should therefore doubt Andrzejczak’s intentions or suspect that he’s a so-called “Russian agent” since he sincerely wants the West to win its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine, but he’s also very worried that it might lose unless his side acknowledges the unpopular truths that he just shared. In his view, their failure to do so could doom Kiev to defeat, though the argument can also compellingly be made that indefinitely perpetuating this conflict like Poland seeks to do might be even more disastrous.

After all, none of the three challenges that he drew attention to can be overcome anytime soon. The only exception might be the population one, but that would entail changing EU legislation in order to allow the expulsion of refugees, which is unlikely to happen. The economic and logistical factors are systemic ones, which affect not only Ukraine, but the entire West in general. It’s simply impossible to sustain the pace, scale, and scope of the West’s multidimensional aid to Ukraine if the conflict drags on.

As Andrzejczak himself admitted, “We just don’t have ammunition. The industry is not ready not only to send equipment to Ukraine, but also to replenish our stocks, which are melting.” Considering that Poland is Ukraine’s third most important patron behind the Anglo-American Axis, this strongly suggests that all other NATO members are struggling just as much as it is to keep up the pace, scale, and scope of support, if not more since many are a lot smaller and thus less capable of contributing in this respect.

Accordingly, this observation means that Kiev’s upcoming counteroffensive will likely be its “last hurrah” prior to resuming peace talks with Russia since the West won’t be able to keep up its assistance for much longer. Andrzejczak seems keenly aware of this “politically inconvenient” fact, hence why he wants his side to give its proxies as much as possible until the end of that operation in the hopes that they can then be in a comparatively more advantageous position by the time these talks recommence.

He and those who think like him are making two very dangerous gambles: 1) they expect the upcoming counteroffensive to be at least mildly successful in gaining some ground; and 2) anticipate that Russia will agree to resume peace talks once this operation finally ends. The corresponding risks are obvious in that: 1) the counteroffensive might fail so badly that Russia exploits this disaster to gain an uncertain amount of ground instead; and/or 2) Moscow might not recommence talks upon Kiev’s request.

No responsible policymaker would take either of those variables for granted, hence why it’s arguably better if Kiev abandons its counteroffensive and accepts China’s ceasefire proposal instead of taking the growing risk that it fails and/or Russia keeps fighting knowing that Western support might soon end. Those interconnected worst-case scenarios are growing in likelihood due to the economic and logistical challenges that Andrzejczak identified, with only the chance of Russian mishaps balancing out the odds.

Nevertheless, all indications suggest that the counteroffensive will soon begin despite the serious challenges inherent in it, with this decision being driven by political factors connected with the need to show the Western public that their over $150 billion worth of aid has been spent on something tangible. Even if it ends up being a disastrous spectacle, decisionmakers are willing to take that risk, with some like Andrzejczak wanting to go all in out of desperation to score a final victory before resuming peace talks.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
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To: Kazan
In the form of long range ATACAMS rocket artillery and the Assault Breaker missile with cluster bomb submunitions, the US has weapons that would dramatically change the battle space in Ukraine's favor if deployed. At the very least, these should be provided to Poland for the possible next phase of the conflict if Ukraine's offensive fails: Polish-US intervention to prevent Russia from taking over the west of Ukraine by occupation or the installation of a puppet regime.
21 posted on 04/29/2023 7:11:57 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Gen.Blather

Most respectfully, what you wrote was silly ignorance.
Here it is:

“During WWI some French troops revolted. The situation that the mobilized Russians find themselves in is probably much worse than what the French faced.”

A comparison of the number of soldiers killed says that the French were more than 100 times worse off than the Russians are now.

By 1917, when the French Mutiny occured, France had almost 3/4 million war dead, with a population of 40 million. That’s 1 in every 50 people

By contrast, Radio Free Europe* said two weeks ago that Russia has had 20,000 fatalities. That’s with a population of 140 million. That’s one in every 7000 people.

To put it another way, in the last year the US had the same number of homicides, two times the number of traffic deaths, and 5 times the number of drug overdoses as the Russians have lost in Ukraine.


22 posted on 04/29/2023 7:43:49 PM PDT by OVERTIME (Tammie Lee Haynes)
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To: dforest; MeganC

😂


23 posted on 04/30/2023 12:56:15 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Kazan

Why does the Ukraine war remind me of the global US Karen yelling at a former abusive husband of her girlfriend over their old divorce property settlement while her girlfriend multitasks fighting with her husband and rummaging through Karen’s closet for cute new summer outfits?


24 posted on 04/30/2023 3:10:56 AM PDT by chuckee ( )
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To: Mariner

the radiation monitors, considering who is putting them in, seem likely to serve only one real purpose.


25 posted on 04/30/2023 4:10:01 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Kazan
Ukraine has been a part of Russia longer than America has been a country.

This has never been our business and certainly not our war.

Remember the “peace dividend”? Well that is gone, probably forever. Thank You Bush 1 & 2, Clinton 1 & 2, Obama 1 & 2(Biden).

Irregardless of leadership and political landscape, Russia will never trust us again.

26 posted on 04/30/2023 4:18:46 AM PDT by M.K. Borders (All I ask from goverment is the Liberty my GrandFather was born is.)
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To: rellic
how about an edit function?

Or just publish an API and we'll write our own edit function and give it to you for free.

27 posted on 04/30/2023 4:36:10 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Kazan
Every inch of annexed territory will remain within the Russian Federation.

Uh, no.

Ukraine city of Kherson liberated from Russians

28 posted on 04/30/2023 4:46:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: rellic
This all about attrition.

Biden says the war must go on until the last Ukranian is dead

29 posted on 04/30/2023 4:46:56 AM PDT by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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To: Kazan

“Hunter’s War has been a disaster for the West.

Thanks Joe.”
^

Elections have consequences: With Joe, there is War.


30 posted on 04/30/2023 5:23:48 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...................."Who is Ray Epps?" should be overstamped on every piece of currency.)
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To: OVERTIME

“and 5 times the number of drug overdoses as the Russians have lost in Ukraine”.
^

All good points: WRT drugs, there is always the specter of millions who are especially “at risk”. A middle school teen had to be resuscitated in class yesterday.

The Russians don’t maintain an open-border policy, either.


31 posted on 04/30/2023 5:34:13 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...................."Who is Ray Epps?" should be overstamped on every piece of currency.)
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To: McGruff

While I’m glad this war is coming to a close. It seems it may be because a war with China is what they want to concentrate on. So, the word is out…wrap it up.


32 posted on 04/30/2023 7:54:50 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: MeganC

“ Ukrainian tractors are parading through Red Square.”

Please say you forgot the /s.


33 posted on 04/30/2023 7:57:37 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Kazan

The “cancel culture” we see in the culture war here at home is now US foreign policy under Biden’s handlers (Obama’s alumni). But, the same way you can’t cancel Limbaugh, Trump, Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan…try as they may, they can’t cancel Russia either.

It’s a cult, cults need a boggie man.


34 posted on 04/30/2023 8:34:56 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Kazan

I think he will be forced to once the Poles “cross the rubicon”.


35 posted on 04/30/2023 9:15:36 AM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: SteelPSUGOP

It was meant to be a disaster for the West, so that China can pick up Taiwan like a daisy in a meadow. Thanks Joe.


36 posted on 04/30/2023 10:08:05 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: bosco24

Tibor’s Tractor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqZGBawsg8k


37 posted on 04/30/2023 10:10:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kazan

Everyone is so focused on the whole Russia-Ukraine thing that rarely does the topic of China come up, other than to discuss if they throw in with Russia.

In the meantime the West is depleting weapons and arms at a staggering pace in this proxy way. Our own officers have raised the flags of diminishing weapon caches. When China seeks to expand, and they will; will we even be capable of putting up a fight?

I keep thinking that Sun Tzu would be wringing his hands right now. Meanwhile, we argue about which bathrooms should be used in our military.


38 posted on 04/30/2023 10:52:20 AM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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