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Trump publicly confirmed the Obama State Dept was behind the Maidan uprising in Ukraine [which has led to all of this mess].

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Ta5gCw1xA&feature=share

Obama/Biden/Nuland were against Ukrainian sovereignty in 2014 before they were for it in Feb. 2022.


4 posted on 04/29/2023 7:37:17 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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The Russian resolve is huge. The low information types have no recollection of the Odessa Trade Union fire, in 2014, where the Azov Ukies barricaded Russian citizens in it then set fire to it. A massacre, Vlad and his people will never forget.

That is precisely why banners across the Russian Federation are seen stating
“ remember Odesa”, “Liberate Odesa”, etc….unfortunately, many Russians want justice, their pound of flesh.

…….so there you have it,……Odessa next?


12 posted on 04/29/2023 7:58:03 AM PDT by delta7
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Its All Over Except ...: "Trump publicly confirmed the Obama State Dept was behind the Maidan uprising in Ukraine [which has led to all of this mess]."

Thanks for your link!

As always, DJT has it exactly right.
But... but, if you listen carefully, HE DID NOT SAY what you claim here.
What he said was, "Victoria Nuland pushing Ukraine towards NATO, not to mention, the state department support for uprisings in Ukraine..."

Trump DID NOT SAY the US secretly engineered or "was behind" uprisings in Ukraine.
As for pushing Ukraine towards NATO, in the year 2000 both Ukraine and Russia were on a path to NATO membership, encouraged by US President Slick and many Europeans.
By 2004 Russian Pres. Vladimir Putin was putting Russia on a different path, but Ukraine and other Eastern European countries remained on a path to NATO membership.

It's certainly true to say, as Trump does, that the US supported NATO membership and 2014 uprisings in Ukraine.
It's not necessarily true that means the US secretly engineered or "was behind" those events.

I would give Ukrainians credit for knowing what they themselves wanted in 2014.

19 posted on 04/29/2023 8:40:44 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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>Obama/Biden/Nuland were against Ukrainian sovereignty in 2014 before they were for it in Feb. 2022.

Someone literally paid snipers to file from a Maidan-controlled hotel on protesters, and then they cried out that it was Yanokovych that did it.


30 posted on 04/29/2023 9:52:00 AM PDT by struggle
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