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To: 1Old Pro; ChicagoConservative27

The only reason why Bush I lost is summed up with one initial and two words.

H. Ross Perot.


9 posted on 04/27/2023 7:56:53 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep, Perot definitely pulled votes from Bush.


10 posted on 04/27/2023 8:00:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Responsibility2nd

Perot would have been better than either Bush or Clinton. NAFTA was the single greatest sell out of this country ever with the exception of granting MFN status to China.

And yes, Bush II did more harm to this country by dragging us into a middle east war in which we had no business than Johnson did with Vietnam, or at least similar.

We don’t need, and the Republic cannot survive, having an Empire.


11 posted on 04/27/2023 8:01:07 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (There was enough government in 1789)
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To: Responsibility2nd
That and Bush Sr winning re-election would have been 4 WH terms in a row of the same party -- something that hasn't happened in my lifetime. IMHO, that Bush Sr won his first term (making it 3 in a row for Republicans) is a testament to Reagan's immense popularity.

Without the Reagan effect, we probably would have had only one or two terms of Republicans before switching to Dim. Since Truman left office (which ended 5 WH terms in a row for Dims with FDR/Truman), the norm has been only 1 or 2 terms in the WH for a party, with the lone exception being 3 in a row for Republicans with Reagan/Bush Sr.

15 posted on 04/27/2023 8:11:28 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
H. Ross Perot.

The only people lamenting the rejection of the Bush family of losers are the neoconnunists.

18 posted on 04/27/2023 8:39:49 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Perot wouldn’t have been a factor had bush41 not been such a gun-grabbing, globalist rino


22 posted on 04/27/2023 8:57:30 AM PDT by Jeff Vader ( )
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To: Responsibility2nd
Bush was out of tune with American sentiment.

Sure, the media overhyped the recession with endless pieces on food lines and hundreds applying for dozens of job openings. The Bush family legacy, and the Republican brand, isn’t helped by rhyming with Middle East wars and recessions. W was perhaps the better of the two but his administration was a disappointment particularly in the second term.

Perot wasn’t serious about winning once he dropped out during summer before getting back in. He was more America First than globalist particularly in trade.

Trump can’t win in 2024. He’s made himself unelectable which is disappointing because I don’t see a strong ideological successor competing for the nomination in 2024. It’s definitely NOT DeSantis.

23 posted on 04/27/2023 9:05:08 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No, Bush would have lost regardless.


30 posted on 04/27/2023 9:52:08 AM PDT by DMD13
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