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Ralph Yarl shooting may revive ‘stand your ground’ debate: About the laws
Washington Post via MSN ^ | April 18, 2023 | Kelsey Ables

Posted on 04/18/2023 5:49:45 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: NohSpinZone
“If the roles were reversed, how much outraged would there be in America?”

Mr. Crump, this country is vast in size -- it isn't a small island in the Pacific somewhere, so asking such a question will have an answer.

A similar incident happened on Long Island in NY some 10 or 15 years ago. White kid accosted black homeowner, black homeowner shoots and kills white kid, black homeowner found not guilty, no outrage except maybe from the white kid's family.

41 posted on 04/18/2023 7:06:32 AM PDT by PallMal
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To: struggle

“This whole thing sounds fishy as if the old man had shot him through the door, it would be quite clear and the police would have arrested the old man immediately.”

Thanks, I figured that there was more to the story than just a guy trying find a house.


42 posted on 04/18/2023 7:08:55 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Chicory

What if the man had a do not trespass sign prominently displayed? That would change the situation legally in my view.


43 posted on 04/18/2023 7:09:51 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
... was trying to pick up his siblings from a friend’s house and went to the wrong address.

No sale! Nope. Not buying it.

44 posted on 04/18/2023 7:10:26 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust!)
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To: napscoordinator
I've only spent a few minutes on this story ... and I've read at least a half dozen different versions of "what actually happened".

As is often the case with emotionally-charged "news", I've learned that before forming an opinion, it is essential to take a day or two (or even three) to separate agenda and hyperbole from the facts.
Cheers!

45 posted on 04/18/2023 7:13:02 AM PDT by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: Highest Authority

Because people do not have their house numbers prominently displayed or lit up at night.

Because cities stupidly name streets in close proximity with variations;Terrace street, avenue, drive, place, circle, court, etc.


46 posted on 04/18/2023 7:16:06 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Never let any opportunity go to waste! Dims will never quit until we are completely and utterly defenseless.


47 posted on 04/18/2023 7:18:14 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Kansas City ranks among the 10 cities in the nation with the most violent crime.

https://fox4kc.com/news/fbi-data-kansas-city-ranks-in-top-10-of-highest-violent-crime-rates-in-u-s/

In KCMO 50% of murder suspects are black, so an unknown black kid at your door at 10:0PM is likely to be a bad thing.

https://www.kcpd.org/media/4413/final-daily-homicide-analysis-2022.pdf

It seems to me the old man way over reacted and injured a kid that was likely not a threat. Hopefully there is video to show what really happened. It's a shame that the race haters and the media ghouls are making this into a racial issue, but it is to be expected. They are as much of a problem as the violent criminals themselves, maybe even more. They always whip up a frenzy in these kinds of cases while sweeping black crime under the rug. Seems to me this case is more about a vulnerable old man in fear brought about by living in a rapidly decaying society. That doesn't excuse his behavior, but it gives us, as a nation, a starting point if we really want to correct the deeper problems that lead to these kinds of incidents.

48 posted on 04/18/2023 7:19:44 AM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: BobL

It doesn’t. But the media and their minions will twist it to try to make apply. I believe that there is more to this story than meets the eye. But from this point forward, the old man is screwed. No matter what he did or did not do.


49 posted on 04/18/2023 7:20:05 AM PDT by sport
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To: joma89

“What if the man had a do not trespass sign prominently displayed? That would change the situation legally in my view.”

I haven’t seen anything about a no-trespassing sign. I’m also not sure how much water your view holds. Legally speaking, of course.


50 posted on 04/18/2023 7:20:41 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Leaning Right

Same Thing happened to me about 20 years ago only with Yahoo maps.
I Watched a car drive between my barns and down the 2 track heading over the hill to my North fence.

Hopped in the Jeep and followed him.

finally caught him in the middle of nowhere headed South.

Turns out Yahoo had inadvertently mapped my property roads, and it was the shortest route to the next town over.

He didn’t think it was odd that the gates or dirt path was unusual as he was from a big city.

Two more weeks, and the autumn rains and snow would have stuck his car there until spring.

I always lock my gates now.


51 posted on 04/18/2023 7:21:26 AM PDT by themidnightskulker (....And then the thread dies.... Peacefully.... In its sleep....)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
There's a huge effort, including fedgov, msm and Hollywood, including Halle Berry, behind building the myth, for this one.

In the first sentence, we know that the homeowner is White, the kid is black and there is, supposedly, a"racial component" to the story.

We only see a photo of Yarl, in a hospital bed, eyes closed, head wrapped in bandages, giving the impression that he's clinging to life.

In fact, he's already home.

I'm guessing a graze wound that didn't penetrate the skull, but we have to keep the narrative alive.

The most common form of home invasion is for the perp to ring the bell and when the door is opened, to push their way in, especially, with elderly.

The whole "wrong house" narrative is going to take a lot more evidence for me to believe.

52 posted on 04/18/2023 7:21:34 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

“No sale! Nope. Not buying it.”

You should call the DA and tell them that you don’t buy it and that they need to drop all charges.


53 posted on 04/18/2023 7:22:30 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Leaning Right

Yikes! Glad nothing bad happened save for a time loss.

“Shortest route” indeed, if you are a crow. 😕

If the correct route is supposed to be a back forest road, someone could get dangerously lost before realizing.

I do wonder if delivery people — after they personally experience the “system” getting things wrong — ever get the idea to look where they are going.


54 posted on 04/18/2023 7:25:28 AM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: snarkybob
You should call the DA and tell them that you don’t buy it and that they need to drop all charges.

Ouch, how snarky of you bob.

55 posted on 04/18/2023 7:30:01 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yes, I would be alarmed if an unknown black youth rang my door bell at 10 PM too. Wonder if there has been any crime in the neighborhood. Have to hand to the old guy. He was ready to go.


56 posted on 04/18/2023 7:34:54 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s should go to Mexico and sneak over the border. )
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To: Ezekiel

> If the correct route is supposed to be a back forest road, someone could get dangerously lost before realizing. <

Yes. In my case, my evil GPS told me to turn onto a two-lane gravel road. So I did, thinking it was some sort of detour. Then those two lanes turned into one lane.

I should have turned back at that moment. And I would have, if my girlfriend had been with me. She would have insisted. But when alone I’m a typical stupid guy. So I pressed on into the forest. After about 45 minutes I came upon a paved two-lane road.

Anything could have happened in those 45 minutes. A flat tire, run off the road by idiot kids, attacked by Bigfoot, etc.

It would make for a good movie.


57 posted on 04/18/2023 7:38:10 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Theoria
Shooting someone thru a storm door isn’t a accident.

Isn't that what Biden suggested a few years back?

58 posted on 04/18/2023 7:40:15 AM PDT by Living Free in NH (now in Florida and loving life)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
This to me just seems like a horrible misunderstanding.

This is pretty much how I see it, too.

But, I can't quite figure out why the old man was so quick to start shooting. The narrative coming out is going to say that it's because the kid was black, and that might or might not be true. He could have just been a jittery old man who saw a stranger and freaked out.

Without actually being in that position myself, I like to think I would pause to ask the kid what the heck he was doing trying to get into my house before I actually fired at him, but that's from the safety of my keyboard.

59 posted on 04/18/2023 7:47:39 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Leaning Right

“It would make for a good movie.”

It’s already been a television episode. Based on a Stephen King short story. You Know They Got a Hell of a Band.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Know_They_Got_a_Hell_of_a_Band


60 posted on 04/18/2023 7:51:16 AM PDT by snarkybob
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