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Opinion: The climate future is bleak. How scientists give their children hope without lying
The Los Angeles Times via MSN ^ | March 25, 2023 | by Paul Thornton

Posted on 03/25/2023 6:18:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Having a child is the most emphatic statement of hope a person can make. I have three young kids, and yet I have trouble remaining optimistic about the world they and their children will inhabit in 2100 and beyond.

The world 77 years from now is likely to be far hotter and more unstable, warmed in a way that depopulates entire metropolises and renders farmland nonarable. It's a world the latest report from the United Nations warns will become reality unless we make dramatic, immediate reductions in our fossil fuel use.

We’re not on track to make those changes in time to prevent a world in which animal and plant species will die off at an alarming rate. And yet, kids deserve to have hope.

But not false hope. That was emphasized to me by Peter Kalmus, one of the climate scientists I called a few months ago to discuss the dissonance of raising children in a world we know to be headed for breakdown. In fact, “Earth breakdown” was the term he used to describe the ecological collapses and natural disasters that would be brought about by the global warming we face.

My older children have learned the basics about climate change in their classrooms; I try to relate some of that to what they see when we’re out in nature. They’ve asked about fires and water restrictions, and even why I’m so reluctant to turn on the heater.

Each conversation is an opportunity to discuss not only climate change, but what we’re doing at our house to not contribute to the problem. Action and example give hope. So does knowing that scientists, such as Kalmus are working on the problem for us and their own children.

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KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hoax; propaganda; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At each and every point on the earth, the climate is continuously changing. The effect of man on the climate is irrelevantly small if it exists at all.

More important perhaps is the continuously on going change produced by tectonic drift. That tectonic change is currently quite visible as east Africa splits away.

Tectonic drift induced earth quakes present a much larger and quite real danger to American states that include the Pacific and San juan De Fuca Plates


21 posted on 03/25/2023 6:48:08 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Being a liberal must be incredibly depressing- they see gloom and doom everywhere, And where there actusly isn’t any doom, they invent it


22 posted on 03/25/2023 6:53:04 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am hoping for Climate Static, where the climate never changes and we have ability to control Mother Nature. Well, at least if we could predict tomorrows weather 100% of the time it would be a good start. >s


23 posted on 03/25/2023 6:56:20 AM PDT by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is no such thing as “fossil fuel”, there is only hydrocarbon fuel, formed both abiotically and as a result of thermal depolymerization of organic matter. The burning of hydrocarbon fuels continues the carbon dioxide/oxygen cycle of life, and is essential for just about every living thing, plants and animals both, and even taking in the other forms of life right down to single-cell organisms.

Methane, the simplest of the hydrocarbon fuels, existed even before the formation of the earth, and continues to exist today as both a product of the decomposition of organic matter, and in pockets trapped in the earth’s crust as the major constituent of natural gas.

Outlawing hydrocarbon fuels does not mean they shall no longer exist, only that a new “criminal class” shall emerge.

Prohibition of alcoholic beverages did not mean that the art and science of the brewing and distilling of spirits stopped, that was another class of “criminals” created. Yet it was once the law of the land.


24 posted on 03/25/2023 6:56:49 AM PDT by alloysteel (Why do you call everybody "@sshole"? Because it is gender neutral.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What a load of 🦬💩.

Pure propaganda.

25 posted on 03/25/2023 6:59:51 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The climate future is the same now as it was in 1800, 1900, and 2000: hot and cold weather, rainy and dry seasons. Suck it up and deal with it, cupcakes.

26 posted on 03/25/2023 7:00:23 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I’m so reluctant to turn on the heater

Then move south to about 15 degrees either side of the equator. No heater, clothes dryer, or coat is ever needed. Air conditioners are addictive, but as heat pumps they are four times more efficient in changing the room temperature one degree than heaters. The outside starting point temperature is closer to the ideal comfort temperature, so less "white man climate change" is needed.

27 posted on 03/25/2023 7:02:10 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
THE FUTURE IS BLEAK! Utterly BLEAK, I TELL YOU!
AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL
!!!

So bad I just cannot FACE it!

.

So I guess I'll go have breakfast.
(I'm feeling like blueberry pancakes...)

/sarc


28 posted on 03/25/2023 7:02:36 AM PDT by GaltAdonis
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To: cp124

All these brilliant scientists and ask them how to fix this globe killing problem and they have no answer.


29 posted on 03/25/2023 7:05:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“Racist” is the new “Nazi”.)
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To: TalBlack

No problem. Just point out to your kids that you and your doomsday ilk have been dead wrong on EVERY SINGLE SUCH PROGNOSTICATION YOU HAVE EVER MADE. ALWAYS. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME.


There is no rebuttable better than that.


30 posted on 03/25/2023 7:09:58 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: TalBlack

Bfl


31 posted on 03/25/2023 7:12:31 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No.


32 posted on 03/25/2023 7:14:32 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The world 77 years from now is likely to be far hotter and more unstable”

Doubtful, but it’s not under our control morons. Democrats ard the largest threat to America and mankind.


33 posted on 03/25/2023 7:15:26 AM PDT by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a pussy.


34 posted on 03/25/2023 7:23:31 AM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow things will be different 77 years from now.


35 posted on 03/25/2023 7:28:50 AM PDT by pas
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

> ...and even why I’m so reluctant to turn on the heater.

Wow! I never knew my Father was a climate scientist!


36 posted on 03/25/2023 7:35:22 AM PDT by Do_Tar (Do I really need a /sarc?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Which scientists ? fPyRmOM
37 posted on 03/25/2023 7:39:06 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961
nBefxZS
38 posted on 03/25/2023 7:42:07 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
LOL...

77 years from now

What happened to 5, 10 or 20 years from now? Has he switched to the weird number 77 because NONE of their previously doom and gloom forecasts came true? Is it because very few alive today will remember his forecast 77 years from now?

"...[I tell my kids] why I’m so reluctant to turn on the heater."

Another LOL. Might it have to do with your heating costs having tripled because of your climate scare-mongering? Might it have to do with your neuroticism? Or perhaps you're just a cheapskate?

His poor kids are being raised to be as neurotic as their father and afraid of everything they see, hear, read, touch or observe.

"[The neurotic kook Peter Kalmus] and three scientists were arrested last year for chaining themselves to a Chase Bank in downtown Los Angeles to protest JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s industry-leading fossil fuel investments. More recently, he chained himself to the door of a private-jet terminal in Charlotte, N.C., saying the climate emergency requires ramping down aviation."

39 posted on 03/25/2023 7:42:22 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The left is as nutty as Koresh’s Branch Dravidian’s who thought the world was on the verge of ending. This is the apocalypse for atheists.


40 posted on 03/25/2023 7:45:59 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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