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When Will Stubborn Trump Loyalists Face Inconvenient Truths?
American Thinker ^ | 03/24/23 | Geoffrey Hunt

Posted on 03/24/2023 9:27:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Stubborn Trump supporters, especially the most fervent, seem unwilling to challenge the deedless covenant, ask the hard questions that if answered truthfully would confirm that Donald Trump has been a supreme letdown, and his failures -- including the re-election debacle -- self-inflicted.

Promises made, promises kept? Not when it mattered.

Drain the swamp? Spinning around in an airboat.

Trump never cleaned up the FBI, instead hired the Dem sympathizer Christopher Wray as Director, and except for a few gratuitous tweets about his incompetence, left him in place.

Gina Haspel, CIA chief, kept the job until the last day despite the likelihood she was knee-deep with John Brennan in the active sabotage of Trump’s 2015-2016 campaign and incoming president-elect transition.

Trump appointed, then tolerated clueless insubordinates and leakers like Rex Tillerson, John Kelly, JR McMaster, James Mattis, and Gary Cohn, until the damage was done, and Trump’s agenda crippled.

When will unyielding Trump loyalists answer the following questions?

Why did Trump endlessly rail against billions in federal budget giveaways to Dem darlings like Planned Parenthood, and Marxist countries, but signed the bills anyhow?

Why couldn’t Trump get illegal immigration fixed -- beyond executive orders easily overturned — and get Obamacare reversed when he had a Republican Senate and House? Why did Trump let Paul Ryan ruin his platform? Why did Trump deliberately antagonize John McCain knowing McCain would undercut the final vote on debriding Obamacare? Why did Trump willfully persist with a toxic persona, alienating suburban voters that cost him (and us) the House in 2018 and led to the first impeachment and a MAGA agenda declared morte by the Democrats?

Why did Trump never de-classify all the Obamagate documents, and release all of the Biden laptop evidence?

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To: Jim Robinson

“The author needs to pull his head out of his arse.”

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Thank you, Jim Robinson!

The Never Trumpers must NOT be allowed to “Keep The Diamonds”.

The theft of 2020 must not be honored by the submission of an injured and insulted Republic.


221 posted on 03/24/2023 1:37:08 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGAA)
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To: StAnDeliver; SeekAndFind
I pointed out it's actually "his fanatical 74M base of worshippers"; and slug Friday dumps like this prick or the Ronlims don't even begin to chip away at that base.

And I pointed out that you're an idiot if you think that every last one of the 74 million who voted for Trump worship him fanatically. Tens of millions, at best, only preferred him to Biden.

And, FWIW, this article was spot-on.

222 posted on 03/24/2023 1:41:19 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024. The real conservative.)
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To: dfwgator

thats a huge maybe/
at this point deSantis appears to have sold out to the globalists and become a warmonger...
i have hopes that he will come to his senses.i don’t see any other choice #MAGA


223 posted on 03/24/2023 1:46:18 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: ridesthemiles
When will Never Trumpers admit he was sabotaged at every turn???

Because he filled his administration to the brim with Deep State swamp creatures who never wanted him to be president in the first place and actively worked to undermine him every step of the way.

And he wouldn't fire any of them.

224 posted on 03/24/2023 1:59:19 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024. The real conservative.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting Trump vs. MAGA thread bump.


225 posted on 03/24/2023 2:15:47 PM PDT by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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To: desertsolitaire

If President Trump is elected again, what would be different this term from the previous one, and why?

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Do you want it to be different?

Do you want high energy prices, ban on oil production, wars, high unemplyment and inflation, more fake judges?


226 posted on 03/24/2023 2:47:52 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: SeekAndFind

I have issues with this author regarding his demand that Trump be able to accomplish his MAGA agenda under the constitutional CONSTRAINTS imposed on him by his position.
I will concede that many of his appointments were busts, but as some of the commenters at AT pointed out : Most of the things on that list were things he did not have the authority to do or was blocked by Mitch/Ryan/Pelosi/Schumer.

The Democrats and their media allies used the entrenched government bureaucracy and a weaponized DOJ to undercut him at every turn. I actually remember the frustration of the fight against almost all of DC and the fact that he got anything done in the face of the opposition is amazing.

The author is guilty of the very same flaw he assigns to Trump supporters; namely: He expects that Trump should have had the success rate of a God. When one is constantly fending off sociopaths and Mandarins (eg, Pelosi & McConnell), expecting God-like outcomes from a mere mortal is asking too much. And did he mention that over 90% of the mainstream press continued to publish negative and fake news against him?

And here’s my other question — let’s say you vote for someone other than Trump, what guarantee do you have that this Republican President won’t encounter the same obstacles that Trump faced?

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I just want to commend you. This is one of the clearest, to the point, common sense posts I have seen here in a while. Nailed it on every point. This is a biased article that totally ignores all that Trump actually did get done, in spite of the enormity of obstacles placed in front of him by both parties and the deep state. So many straw man arguments.


227 posted on 03/24/2023 3:28:28 PM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: fwdude

I half agree with the author about the election debacle; Trump could have and should have done everything in his power to legally stall the certification of 2020. He did do a lot, including going to courts to get redress, but they wouldn’t listen.

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The point a lot of people miss is this is exactly what the setup of J6 was all about. It was to shut it all down and certify the election.


228 posted on 03/24/2023 3:30:15 PM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: Golden Eagle

You are more full of shit than a Christmas Goose. Keep on clowning...keep on clowning.

I am seriously beginning to think you may actually have a mental disorder. If you do, I sincerely apologize for giving you such a hard time.


229 posted on 03/24/2023 3:34:52 PM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: Safrguns

Alex Jones? Hello...nutbag alert.


230 posted on 03/24/2023 3:37:18 PM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: Drew68

I am just going to say the quiet part out loud. Never have I seen so many willfully ignorant people banging on Trump than in this thread. It is painful to see just how clueless you people are in how our government works...or rather, how establishment twists it to “work”.

For shits sakes, can’t you people educate yourselves in how our Republic (you probably think it’s a Democracy) works?

Damn...just makes me shake my head.


231 posted on 03/24/2023 3:44:52 PM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: TTFX

Thank you for taking the time to reply.
No I do not want those things and I let myself slip to only considering the frustrating parts of President Trump’s term in my previous post. I don’t think his new staff this time even need be much experienced in politics as long as they are fiercely loyal and committed to the cause as President Trump is. Retired successful business leaders might have the requisite work ethic and ruthlessness.


232 posted on 03/24/2023 3:49:46 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Put down the bong. When he pulls the ridiculous baseball bat stunt, (the latest in a long line of very stupid stunts) he repels millions of suburban women.


233 posted on 03/24/2023 3:51:54 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: no-to-illegals

Amen.


234 posted on 03/24/2023 3:52:31 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: bigdaddy45

235 posted on 03/24/2023 3:52:51 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: BlackbirdSST
Are you saying, that boy Can't Understand Normal Thinking?

I don't know what I am saying except to derail a lengthy tirade against someone whose brain short circuits to viewing die hard Trump supporters as a basked of deplorable by resorting to a crude slur against someone. Calling the slur sophmoric to to evelvate the doggerel far above its utter lack of merit.

As folks have pointed out, Trump had little control even over his own candidate because of deepstate hooligans in the House and Senate, in his own party, who could easily have decided to convict and remove him from office had he fired say Wray or Mueller or the senile, confused mark played by Weissman et. co - Jeff Sessions.

As much as he may have failed at the MAGA agenda, he tried from beginning to end in a city that worked overtime to undermine every part of it to bring us debt and wokism and WARR!!!!

As we watch our empire collapse before our eyes, all we can say was he was right and his detractors were scoundrels - all of them, including this whatever his name is that rhymes with the vulgarity I did not use.

236 posted on 03/24/2023 3:55:07 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: bigdaddy45
When he pulls the ridiculous baseball bat stunt .... he repels millions of suburban women.

The question is, does he?

Or do people perceive that the object of scorn and humiliation is a worthless incompetent Harvard trainded stooge of Soros who is quite in favor of letting rapists and murderers and carjackers out on the street after their 15 minute appearance before the judge.

He has made it clear that there is a stark choice. Do you want order and decency or do you want limpwrist deepstate frauds and crooks who will talk nice and offend no one.

237 posted on 03/24/2023 4:00:54 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: desertsolitaire

Retribution


238 posted on 03/24/2023 4:05:19 PM PDT by combat_boots ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Precisely.

Thank you.


239 posted on 03/24/2023 4:06:29 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy thmkeorist stuff, there.”)
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To: DesertRhino

well said,nice summary
#MAGA


240 posted on 03/24/2023 4:07:38 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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