Posted on 03/16/2023 4:17:48 AM PDT by tkocur
U.S. officials have released video that shows a Russian Su-27 fighter jet colliding with the propeller of a U.S. MQ-9 reaper drone.
The video was released by the U.S. military's European Command on Thursday, allowing the public to view the widely-reported aerial incident.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin summarized the incident Wednesday in a press conference, saying, "Two Russian jets dumped fuel on an unmanned U.S. MQ-9 aircraft conducting routine operations in international airspace. And one Russian jet intercepted and hit our MQ-9 aircraft, resulting in a crash."
Austin sharply criticized the Russian military for its actions, stating that the Black Sea incident was "a part of a pattern of aggressive and risky and unsafe actions by Russian pilots in international airspace."
Russia has previously denied that the aircraft touched one another, and accused the U.S. of unnecessarily escalating the issue.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
>Correct, and it was. The engine stopped as a result. As to your second statement, how do you know the condition of the MIG? Did Vlad send you photos?
Give me a f’in break. It was a WAG on my part. If an aircraft comes in contact with a propeller, it will be shredded. How much? Who knows.
“ It is at the very end of it. After the screen goes wonky, the video comes back and that image is what is seen at the very end. ”
Link?
I can only imagine what we would do if we discovered an Orion-2 flying off the coast of California or the Gulf of Mexico.
The words used in that statement shows me that it was written by a Soetero leftist plant embedded in the Pentagon. Only a diehard liberal would use those words in a matter such as this.
“Prop shaft stopped instantly. Prop did not come apart. So, no. “
A statistical story of one whole event. That firmly establishes the principle, especially since all props are the same, and all rotate at the exact same speed yours was when it failed.
Very convincing LOL.
Sorry, friend. Its just so many arm chair warriors turned arm chair aviation experts making ignorant statements like they are fact has me in a short response mode.
Several are regulars who will not believe anything unless is lines up exactly with their already pre-conceived conclusion (i.e. you cant believe anything from anybody anymore, even if you are allowed to see it with your own eyes).
I suspect from the video that the MIG, while being very aggressive in trying to flame out the drone engine by dowsing it with fuel in the intake, unintentionally clipped it with his horizontal stabilizer. That would not necessarily shred the horizontal stab, but even if it did, combat aircraft are designed to ‘survive’ battle damage. I flew in the Gulf 91 war. We had more than a handful of aircraft come back from runs shot up or with missing parts from AAA the first few nights of that war.
Another ‘aviation expert’ chiming in, I suppose? Please relate you expertise to the class, and continue.
“Turboprops are geared. It’s why they are used. “
Some are, some aren’t. Garrets and derivatives are, Pratt and Whitneys aren’t. Rule of thumb only. MQ9 probably is geared.
Yes, and the Russians are stereotypically known for building bullet proof stuff so you may be correct. Who knows. When I think of bullet proof aircraft, I think of the warthog.
MQ9 supposedly uses the Honeywell TPE331, which is geared.
No need sport. I was pointing out your deep thinking and statistical training. “I had it happen to me once, so I have concluded it can never occur in any other manner.”
In 44 years of flying now, I have had a handful of engine failures in flight, more4than one where I was flying dual engine, one where I was flying single engine. Because of good traiining, I brought all of those back to the boat or field.
Your remark implies you know something and would like to add it to the conversation constructively, yet you seem to want to be sarcastic, and not in the friendly way, sport.
So I would ask again, please enlighten us on your experience here.
I’m not with the Neo-Con war party or the dem war party on this one. Russia really did control ukraine until a few decades ago for centuries since the founding of the USA. Not once in those years since 1776 did the US dispute Russia’s presence and control. There really are a lot of ties to russia still a part of ukraine.
It is a local war of regional interest, and the US is involved only to hide the terrible state of the United States of America under Joe Biden.
I don’t need my son and grandsons shedding blood over Ukraine.
There are at least two damaged propellers. The one in the still image that's curled over, but there's a second one that is fully feathered, which means it was also damaged by being struck.
Normally all propellers are mechanically linked to change pitch in unison.
It's at the very end of the video in the linked Fox News story, after the video goes wonky with pixelated images and color bands. It shows a bent prop similar to the image posted up-thread.
that must be the same US Drone that was “unarmed” and couldn’t help ambassador Stevens in Benghazi, ( all it could do was watch as the hired hit men ( islamic protesters ) finished the job )
“ Milley is afraid to blame Russia for doing it on purpose. So sad the way they kowtow to our enemies.”
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Milley KNOWS that he is living in a glass house containing a multitude of booby traps. To a near certainty HE was involved in the decision to approve the Nord Stream ACT-OF-WAR. Did you notice how Milley studiously rejected the characterization of this drone loss as an act-of-war and instead said “incidents happen”?
Most likely aluminum or titanium wrapped in a composite/fiber material.
The combination make for an extremely strong and light material. Many, helicopter blades are constructed this way.
Yes I saw the damaged prop. What I’m suggesting that an aircraft traveling at 400-500 KCAS dumping fuel on a small drone coupled with the significant jet wash can very easily bend a prop. Funny just one blade bent.
Have you ever seen fire hoses used as crowd control? Same idea, just imagine the same water being dumped from aircraft. Look at water dumps from tankers for forest fires. One hell of an impact and they are flying 150 KCAS maybe.
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