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Climate is changing too quickly for the Sierra Nevada's 'zombie forests'
NPR Boise ID ^ | March 13, 2023 | By Joe Hernandez

Posted on 03/13/2023 11:12:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Some of the tall, stately trees that have grown up in California's Sierra Nevada are no longer compatible with the climate they live in, new research has shown.

Hotter, drier conditions driven by climate change in the mountain range have made certain regions once hospitable to conifers — such as sequoia, ponderosa pine and Douglas fir — an environmental mismatch for the cone-bearing trees.

"They were exactly where we expected them to be, kind of along the lower-elevation, warmer and drier edges of the conifer forests in the Sierras," Avery Hill, who worked on the study as a graduate student at Stanford University, told NPR.

Although there are conifers in those areas now, Hill and other researchers suggested that as the trees die out, they'll be replaced with other types of vegetation better suited to the environmental conditions.

The team estimated that about 20% of all Sierra Nevada conifer trees in California are no longer compatible with the climate around them and are in danger of disappearing. They dubbed these trees "zombie forests."

(Excerpt) Read more at boisestatepublicradio.org ...


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To: Gay State Conservative

Even the indians who lived in Southern California called the LA basin the VALLY OF SMOKES, and that was hundreds of years before SUV’s or EVIL OIL.

Of course the LA BREA TAR PITS have been there for 100’s of thousands of years.


21 posted on 03/13/2023 11:47:57 AM PDT by 5th MEB
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To: Sacajaweau

Zombie Forest....another name for “old trees”...that should be logged.


22 posted on 03/13/2023 11:48:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

” they’ll be replaced with other types of vegetation better suited to the environmental conditions.”

OH MY GOD!!! The environment will adapt to changes. RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!


23 posted on 03/13/2023 11:48:55 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: George J. Jetso
The sun is in charge. Although Mr Freeze is not helping with all that snow!!
All life adapts. We dress according to changes in weather so do plants and those trees have been here longer then our civilization. They are just not as stylish as we are.

Blnk
24 posted on 03/13/2023 11:51:58 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Boise Idaho is not in the Sierra Nevada. The trees there are doing just fine. I have been there even as recently as this past summer. It was a dry year and there were burnt sections but nature. This year they will have plenty of water and then some.

Another thing to note is that it is not climate change that the trees are incompatible with, it is modern forest conservation methods. When a forest fire starts, they run out and extinguish it as soon as possible. The trees grow more dense and the bugs eat them. When someone suggests cutting down some of the trees to reduce the density, environmentalists get upset. Besides that they already got rid of most of the sawmills. So if they did thin the forest there’s no place to take the trees.


25 posted on 03/13/2023 11:52:31 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Fungi

Well,, I have only 6 years forestry/Silviculture job experience ( blm\usfs ), but I agree

Pure
unadulterated
crap.

Zombie forests....sheeesh.


26 posted on 03/13/2023 11:57:20 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

27 posted on 03/13/2023 12:04:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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To: webheart
Joe Hernandez is an NPR "reporter" whose stories get picked up by lots of NPR affiliate stations. This one happened to be picked up by NPR in Boise. He is not confusing Idaho and California, although both end in "a" and that can be confusing to radical idiots.

Here's Joe, true believer...


28 posted on 03/13/2023 12:11:31 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wasn’t that part of the country an ocean several million years ago, plus a few volcanoes? Nature is not static, and cannot be made to be static.


29 posted on 03/13/2023 12:13:56 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They just make it up and create names like zombie forests when by the article’s own reporting, none have died.

They think that maybe later maybe someday 20% of a subset of trees might be in danger.

Which means zombie forests.

They make up a term for something that hasn’t happened and probably never will.


30 posted on 03/13/2023 12:16:33 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: George J. Jetso; All

True. And they keep, electing politicians that promote drought conditions, forest fires, electricity shortages, illegal immigration, fentenyl, homelessness, high taxes...


31 posted on 03/13/2023 12:24:01 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder; Monkey Face

32 posted on 03/13/2023 12:26:54 PM PDT by null and void (Soros funded judges and district attorneys have Detention Deficit Disorder)
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To: Fungi
Pure unadulterated crap.

Yes, crap by a naive youngster. Truth is, many of those forests in the Sierra Nevada were cleared during and after the Gold Rush days in the mid-1800's, as thousands of people flooded in from elsewhere for mining and building towns. The forests recovered on their own, most of the forests are youthful trees and recover despite numerous forest fires.

33 posted on 03/13/2023 12:32:08 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: null and void

Good example why democrats keep voting for democrats LOL


34 posted on 03/13/2023 2:25:09 PM PDT by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a bunch of horseshit! California’s climate is the same as it has been for many decades, we cycle between drought and flood, always have and always will. I distinctly recall us being told we were in for another year of drought....OOPS!

People forget so soon, I think it was 1997 or 98 that we got flooded out in Fountain Valley, CA just two or three miles from the ocean, the streets were in passible in many locations and my house was flooded. But soon we were back into a drought period. Shit like this happens when you live in a desert climate.


35 posted on 03/13/2023 2:25:51 PM PDT by Mastador1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Many parts of California are semi arid and with wetter years and irrigation some plants have flourished. I am certain the geological record shows these wet dry cycles going back millennia. I don’t expect the Sierra Nevada to be an arid moonscape anymore that the Pacific Ocean will be boiling anytime soon.


36 posted on 03/13/2023 2:31:22 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NPR and their staff can go have intercourse with themselves.


37 posted on 03/13/2023 2:51:59 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"He is not confusing Idaho and California, although both end in "a" ..."

What do you mean, they both end in "a"..?

38 posted on 03/13/2023 7:50:32 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (May the 10 just men lacking in Sodom be found in America, for our sake of survival.)
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To: jackibutterfly

Just seeing if anybody reads my drivel. Well done!


39 posted on 03/13/2023 7:51:08 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"Just seeing if anybody reads my drivel. Well done!"

Why thank you, sir! It wasn't too hard for me as I'm from IdahO. :-)

40 posted on 03/13/2023 10:09:44 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (May the 10 just men lacking in Sodom be found in America, for our sake of survival.)
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