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Too late to save environment, says Green Party co-founder
BBC News ^ | March 2, 2023 | By Helen Catt & Thomas Mason

Posted on 03/05/2023 5:12:24 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If we’re doomed, I say party on.


61 posted on 03/05/2023 9:39:12 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Welp. *dusts hands*

Our work here is done!

62 posted on 03/05/2023 9:46:51 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good. If it’s too late we can stop talking about and stop wasting money on the climate hoax.

Drill, baby, drill! My V-8 needs Go Juice.


63 posted on 03/05/2023 6:12:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Environment Extortionists are saying this because they know their sham has been exposed and the money isn’t flowing in anymore!


64 posted on 03/06/2023 9:09:23 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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To: dangus

Uh, you really think electricity will get cheaper, after ALL costs are considered, going green?

That would require an enormous breakthrough in storage technology. Yeah, fabulous new batteries with wonderful reliability are just around the corner — for the last few decades. I’ll just say I’m “from Missouri” and will believe it when large scale production has proven itself for a few years.

Then the cost of the grid rebuild has to be included too. Heck, we haven’t even made much progress in hardening it against the next Carrington Event.

I may be a bit prejudiced too, because I believe in not putting all my eggs in one basket. Several years back we had a massive ice storm. My family was luckier than most, as we only had two extended periods without any power, and numerous shorter periods. (Feeds from two different lines on our property, and I have a couple long heavy extension cords.) But, just up the road from us, people were running generators 3 weeks later. I had a 5000w generator that really got a workout. But no way could it have additionally handled charging an EV.

Anyway, once the roads were marginally safe, whenever we got down to ~10 gallons of gasoline, I’d make a run to town to get more gas. The gas station had a generator to run the pumps, inside lights, registers, etc. The supply of gas to the station was via trucks running on diesel.

If our entire energy infrastructure had been electric, we’d have been in deep trouble. Perhaps we could have escaped in an EV on the 3rd or 4th day, but we’d have lost most of the plumbing in the house, the well, and most of our animals. That gasoline / diesel infrastructure was our lifeline.


65 posted on 03/06/2023 11:12:56 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

Well good FTS. Drill baby drill or lock and load.


66 posted on 03/06/2023 11:15:10 PM PST by Equine1952
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To: Paul R.

>> Uh, you really think electricity will get cheaper, after ALL costs are considered, going green? <<

Yes. I understand when you say, “Yeah, fabulous new batteries with wonderful reliability are just around the corner — for the last few decades.” That’s why I start with “50 years of lies about the feasibility of solar power make this hard to believe.”


67 posted on 03/07/2023 9:08:21 AM PST by dangus ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good. Let’s quit worrying about it and get on with life.


68 posted on 08/31/2023 11:26:50 AM PDT by technically right
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To: dangus

EV’s are BS, like your post.


69 posted on 08/31/2023 11:30:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: dangus

I never knew you were environmentally-ill.


70 posted on 08/31/2023 11:32:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Gen.Blather
The first rule in politics is the same as the first rule in sales. Create a sense of urgency.

The Nazis wrote the book on it.

71 posted on 08/31/2023 11:34:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kinzua

>> The use of coal is growing rapidly in countries that are not suicidal.<<

Coal use is flat globally for ten years. Even in China, its up only slightly in the last years, while China’s energy use has more than doubled.

>> Electric vehicles are much heavier and thus require more power than an ICE vehicle. <<

Marginally heavier, but fantastically more efficient. ICEs use only about 20% of the fuel they burn.

>> Oil and coal extraction are less energy intensive and cleaner than lithium. <<

A lithium battery does not CONSUME lithium. At present, it’s so cheap that it rarely recycled. At higher costs, it will be recycled.

>> CO2 is not a pollutant. <<

True, at least not in the sense that it causes poisoning.

>> Electricity is far more expensive than oil and gas. << Bizarrely untrue.

>> A warming climate may be a good thing for humanity <<
May be a good thing for life in general, and relatively harmless for humans who want to move away from their current homes to live in Siberia or the Canadian Shield.

>> Government intervention in energy policy will cause much more suffering than the imagined problem being pushed by the Global Communist movement. <<
Absolutely true, making me wonder if you actually even read my post.

Oil and coal extraction are less energy intensive and cleaner than lithium. CO2 is not a pollutant. Electricity is far more expensive than oil and gas. A warming climate may be a good thing for humanity and rising CO2 levels are greening the Planet. Government intervention in energy policy will cause much more suffering than the imagined problem being pushed by the Global Communist movement. <<


72 posted on 08/31/2023 11:46:30 AM PDT by dangus
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