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Too late to save environment, says Green Party co-founder
BBC News ^ | March 2, 2023 | By Helen Catt & Thomas Mason

Posted on 03/05/2023 5:12:24 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

One of the founders of what would become the Green Party of England and Wales has declared "it's too late" to save the environment.

Michael Benfield, who helped set up the new political movement in the 1970s, said he believed the "battle for the world's environmental survival" was "at this moment, lost".

"I think we have succeeded in helping to educate... but we have failed in dealing with the battle for environmental survival.

The scale of the solutions which he believed were necessary would be simply too unpalatable for any political party to propose, he argues.

The focus now, he thought, would have to be on mitigation.

"It doesn't mean to say that we can't perhaps do other things to put things right, but it's a very dire situation that we have," Mr Benfield said.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carbonpropaganda; climatehoax; fakescience; globalwarming; hoax; propaganda; socialism
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To: metmom

I agree!


21 posted on 03/05/2023 5:32:06 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: LibWhacker
If you don't give us your money, we'll shoot this dog.


22 posted on 03/05/2023 5:34:40 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Then why don’t they just STFU?


23 posted on 03/05/2023 5:34:43 AM PST by Spok
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Meanwhile, for those of us living in the real world, today’s shaping up to be a lovely spring day.


24 posted on 03/05/2023 5:35:05 AM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In other words, the jigs up.


25 posted on 03/05/2023 5:36:55 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What does the “battle for the world’s ENVIRONMENTAL survival” even mean?

Here’s the rundown to piss off all sides:

Global warming is happening. It’s at least somewhat anthropogenic.

But the real battle is over the globe warming two degrees. Most of the warming would be in polar and subpolar regions. Most would be in local winter. Most would be at night. Hot summer days won’t be much hotter. Cold winter nights will be much warmer. This may introduce pests and health issues that Europe and Northern America aren’t used to. The net result of global warming would be fewer destructive storms, not more. The sea levels would rise a foot or so, mostly through adiobatic expansion (liquids expand when they heat up). Sea ice will decline, but even the complete elimination of all sea ice an ice shelves won’t raise sea levels one inch. The maps they show of sea level rise are based on the complete melting of Antarctica, which would require temperatures raising 100 degrees for 10,000 years.

50 years of lies about the feasibility of solar power make this hard to believe, but we’ve finally reached the point where solar power really does make sense economically. Subsidizing unfeasible “green” technology has delayed this, by robbing demand from feasible technology. EVs are incredibly more efficient than gas-powered engines, even given the presently higher price and cost of distributing electricity. EVs are about to get a LOT cheaper. They will dominate the car market with or without government intervention. There will long be a sizeable niche for gas-powered vehicles, and for dual-technology vehicles; this niche presently includes vacation and business travel, but not for long. EVs run on electricity, of which 60% is generated by carbon, but nearly all growth in power production will be “green.”

Earth will not run out of Lithium in the foreseeable future. New reserves will be found, new extraction and refinement techniques will make more of what has been found economically recoverable. And Lithium is not depleted by usage; if the price of Lithium goes high enough, lithium recycling becomes economically feasible.

Lithium extraction and refinement is not clean. Neither are any other industrial processes. Its harms are unique, but it’s not uniquely harmful.


26 posted on 03/05/2023 5:41:29 AM PST by dangus
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, I guess they don’t need any donations, then…


27 posted on 03/05/2023 5:41:49 AM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did Nike stop making purple shoes after that one group in Oregon did a mass suicide solution? This guy sounds like he would have a closet full of purple Nikes.


28 posted on 03/05/2023 5:42:02 AM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The focus now, he thought, would have to be on mitigation.”

I agree.

The wealthy elitists need to get rid of their private jets, their multiple homes, their fleets of cars.

The anti-Pope needs to shut off all electricity in Vatican city.

No more world environmental conferences in posh resorts.

Lets mitigate!

;-)


29 posted on 03/05/2023 5:44:59 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg
Good article. Bookmarked. I also like this one:


30 posted on 03/05/2023 5:47:34 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: dangus

Also, the conversion of our economy to solar and wind power is happening incredibly faster than any government projections ever predicted. Current projections would require a MASSIVE divestment away from these technologies to occur. Coal is absolutely dead. We probably will be 80% reliant on solar and wind power within 20 years. Last year, the market share for renewable energy grew 3%. I don’t mean that renewable energy grew by 3%, which would mean that at the current rate of growth, renewable energy could barely keep up with increased demand, if at all. Rather, I mean that its market share grew so fast that within 33 years, even at a linear growth rate, it would reach 100%.


31 posted on 03/05/2023 5:47:44 AM PST by dangus
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If its true then we can just give up on this green crap!


32 posted on 03/05/2023 5:50:29 AM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess it’s all on Elon now.


33 posted on 03/05/2023 5:52:40 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Meanwhile, the rest of us can build more coal power plants.”

No, but China and India will, and Russia will once they finish swatting us out of Ukraine.


34 posted on 03/05/2023 5:53:02 AM PST by BobL
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At least one of the green weenies is showing some common sense.


35 posted on 03/05/2023 5:54:06 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("I may be a white boy but I'm not stupid". - FJB at Black "History" event. Tell 'em Jo Jo!)
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To: LibWhacker

MRking.


36 posted on 03/05/2023 6:00:28 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well good, now the left can stop whi I g about it and prepare for warmer weather 😆


37 posted on 03/05/2023 6:02:52 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good. So let’s party. Emit some greenhouse gases, everybody!


38 posted on 03/05/2023 6:04:14 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Great. So no need for green policy.


39 posted on 03/05/2023 6:04:51 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The dirtier the better.


40 posted on 03/05/2023 6:04:58 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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