“BORDERS AREN’T SACRED, HUMAN LIVES ARE”
Garbage take. Borders were created to protect human lives. So to sacrifice one is to necessarily sacrifice the other.
Candor
It increasingly looks as if Vlad’s well defined speech of Feb 24 is becoming reality, and there is nothing Biden’s war cheerleaders can do about it. Of course, in the end , Vlad may go even further and liberate Odessa thus hamstringing the Ukies for decades.
No human being has any claim on another’s property... Same goes for their countries, and ALL countries have borders.
That just encourages aggression.
Russia is a bully, and always has been. And, like all bullies, Russia is insecure and paranoid. Thus, bullies are forever looking for victims — smaller and weaker than they — and will continue to aggress them. These “conquests” feed the bully’s ego, and temporarily assuage his insecurity and paranoia. But, bullies can never be permanently assuaged; it simply is not in their makeup. BUT, bullies can be STOPPED, as history has shown.
Land for peace worked out great for Europe, the last time they tried it.
Had to Google this clown. Apparently his biggest accomplishment in life was runner-up in the 2020 Green Party of Canada leadership election. Just goes to show, every Green is actually a Watermelon...
“And no one believes they will be able to retrieve Crimea”.
There are a bunch of stupid anti American neocons on this site who disagree.
What about borders that were paid for in human blood?
The hard reality today is that Ukraine will not recover all of the territory it has lost since 2015. At some stage, Ukraine will be forced to cede at least some territory to Russia. Moreover, if this war continues, Ukraine may well lose even more territory. Worst of all, vast numbers of Ukrainians will die, much of the Ukrainian infrastructure that remains intact will be destroyed, and the risk of nuclear war will increase…
This fella is obviously a Putin stooge and an appeaser afraid of nuclear blackmail. We’re in it no matter the cost and for as long as it takes.
The hard reality today is that Ukraine will not recover all of the territory it has lost since 2015. At some stage, Ukraine will be forced to cede at least some territory to Russia. Moreover, if this war continues, Ukraine may well lose even more territory.
The hard reality is that in a conventional war between Ukraine and Russia, Russia wins. Ukraine will lose more territory and will be forced to cede more territory. It seems likely that Russia will take Luhansk, Donetsk. Also Zaporizhizia and the nuclear power plant. That will stay Russian. Mykolaev and Odessa. Add Transnistria with its Cobasna Ammo Depot, perhaps the largest ammo depot in Eastern Europe. Crimea has been, is, and will continue to be part of Russia.
The war has taken a cession of just Luhansk and Donetsk, or parts thereof, off the table. There will be no going back to the status of the Minsk accords which proved to be a ploy to gain time to get ready to have another go. If Ukraine is not demilitarized, they have demonstrated they would simply do it again when capable. Russia will render them incapable of doing it again for a long time.
The problem with such a peace scenario is that it takes about 80% of GDP away from what was the poorest nation in Europe going into the war and leaves it landlocked. Most of their former industry would be located in Russia. They could well become a failed state with neighbors annexing various parts. That will be land for welfare.
If the war were to end tomorrow, and the status quo were enforced for the future, Ukraine would still be screwed. What Ukraine now really needs is for Russia to cede land already gained for peace.
Okay, then, leave your door unlocked.