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The Sharks Are Circling - Russia And China Take Aim At The World's Undersea Cable Network
AND Magazine ^ | Feb 23, 2023 | Sam Faddis

Posted on 02/28/2023 8:17:16 PM PST by george76

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To: george76

These would be attacks against all global communications given the nature of the internet.
All countries will be affected. Some more than others depending on the cable, but it will hit everyone. It will affect global trade and finance as well.


21 posted on 02/28/2023 8:49:43 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: george76

Going to be hard on China when Americans can’t buy all their crap on the internet.


22 posted on 02/28/2023 8:55:20 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: kiryandil

China is extremely exposed. It too is dependent on internet comms, and blowing up cables anywhere will have consequences.

It is also highly dependent on international trade and finance. If it goes about blowing up international cables this is going to start a retaliatory trade war and financial sanctions.

As for retaliation, Russia is also highly vulnerable to trade sanctions. It can sell very little petroleum through pipelines to friendly countries. It needs tankers, and these can easily be blockaded on the high seas.


23 posted on 02/28/2023 8:56:29 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya
It needs tankers, and these can easily be blockaded on the high seas.

The dumb is strong in this post.

24 posted on 02/28/2023 8:58:55 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Remember the Chinese balloon?

You mean THIS BALLOON? which had a high def/high zoom/high res camera mapping everything it passed over?

You have to see that video. 200x zoom showed what that balloon was doing.

25 posted on 02/28/2023 8:59:28 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Remember the Chinese balloon?

You mean THIS BALLOON? which had a high def/high zoom/high res camera mapping everything it passed over?

You have to see that video. 200x zoom showed what that balloon was doing.

26 posted on 02/28/2023 9:01:05 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: kiryandil

If the US wanted to effectively stop Russian foreign trade, it can, easily.

Its already forcing the discounting of Russian oil prices just through the marine insurance system.

The tit for tat in escalation of economic war is hardly one way. And in an economic war Russia doesn’t have a “nuclear weapon”. The US does.


27 posted on 02/28/2023 9:04:35 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: GOPJ

“tracking Russian vessels believed to be mapping undersea cables in the North Sea and surrounding bodies of water. The concern is that the Russians are preparing to stage attacks on these cables”

Now they are worried the Russians are gonna blow things up underwater? You don’t look behind the door unless you’ve hid there yourself.

But actually, Russia has shown a lot of maturity in this whole thing so I doubt they will. But it’s probably on the table if it turns into an open NATO/Russia war.


28 posted on 02/28/2023 9:05:16 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: buwaya

So, after one act of the illegal blatant piracy, you are advocating for actual piracy and still have a nerve to claim thst it is Russia and China who are the bad guys?:)
Bad or good are not inherent definition. Good and bad deeds make good and bad guys.


29 posted on 02/28/2023 9:06:49 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: GOPJ

You are assuming they don’t want 90% dead.


30 posted on 02/28/2023 9:13:52 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: buwaya
Yes, the U.S. has both literal and economic nuclear weapons.

And Joe Biden is the one who wields both.

I feel so secure.

31 posted on 02/28/2023 9:19:51 PM PST by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: george76

Also remember who invented the idea of cutting undersea cables. In WWI Germany had 5 undersea cables directly to America. The Brits cut them in 1914 to force all US communications to go through Britain. We were neutral at the time and the war was in it’s first week or so.


32 posted on 02/28/2023 9:25:32 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Its already forcing the discounting of Russian oil prices just through the marine insurance system.

No, it's not.

Just you writing it doesn't make it so.

Have a good evening.

33 posted on 02/28/2023 9:30:53 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: NorseViking

I advocate nothing.
Just saying that Russian attempts at economic war are just likely to lead to tit for tat, and the US holds all the trumps in that route of escalation.


34 posted on 02/28/2023 9:50:35 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: NorseViking

Russia threatened all our coastal cities with that “nuclear torpedo” that would cause a tsunami

now Russia is threatening to cut our undersea cables

see? this just proves what an ongoing menace to world peace Russia really is


35 posted on 02/28/2023 9:51:11 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe Russian-free for 75 years ... you're welcome)
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To: buwaya

Tit for tat is the destruction of Norwegian pipelines and and the oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. That you are talking about is not escapation.


36 posted on 02/28/2023 10:30:54 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: canuck_conservative

You probably missed that little insignificant detail that the US entered a proxy war with Russia and broke some things. Who is the threat to whom?


37 posted on 02/28/2023 10:32:35 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: george76

I would suspect these cables are redundant and geographically diverse. Cutting one cable probably wouldn’t end the service of the devices on the endpoints.


38 posted on 02/28/2023 10:40:24 PM PST by Nachoman (Proudly oppressing people of color since 1957.)
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To: george76

If China and Russia do that, then all the US corporations who rely on cheap Indian labor overseas, are in a world of hurt.


39 posted on 02/28/2023 10:51:56 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NorseViking

“proxy war” ... LOL, more of your Russian BS

Russia is fighting Ukraine ... that’s it

(and not doing very well either)


40 posted on 02/28/2023 10:53:18 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe Russian-free for 75 years ... you're welcome)
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