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CLIMATE HYPOCRISY: Oregon installs $300K natural gas generator at mansion after demanding residents switch to electric power
Post Millennial ^ | Feb 27, 2023 | Ari Hoffman

Posted on 02/28/2023 7:33:28 AM PST by george76

The project includes updating the utility service with backup emergency dual natural gas and propane. Adds a full building services generator to the facility for power, should normal utility power fail.

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Democrat Governor Tina Kotek, who previously promised to cut the state’s use of natural gas, is having a dual natural gas and propane backup generator installed at Mahonia Hall, the official residence of the Oregon governor.

According to the official bid, “The project includes updating the utility service with backup emergency dual natural gas and propane. Adds a full building services generator to the facility for power, should normal utility power fail.”

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The City of Salem permit describes the project as “Adding piping from existing NG (natural gas) Utilities to new generator.”

The project also includes adding a 500-gallon propane tank and a new outdoor concrete pad which will be covered with a new pergola structure.

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The project has a price tag of $308,934, which talk radio host Lars Larson told The Post Millennial, is at least four times what the project should reasonably cost based on the contractors he consulted.

Larson, who first revealed the massive expenditure, called it, “Gas for me and not for thee.”

During the Oregon Democrat’s campaign for governor, she stressed the importance of making it easier for Oregonians to buy and charge electric vehicles and claimed she would focus on reducing the use of natural gas.

Kotek has been under fire recently for not ending the state’s practice of using taxpayer funds to pay the travel expenses of state workers who decided to work remotely.

Republican state Sen. Tim Knopp has sponsored Legislative Concept 3697, a bill that would require state employees who live full time in other states to pay their own travel costs when they return to Oregon on state business.

According to data provided by the Oregon Department of Administrative Services, at least 500 of the state’s 45,000 employees live and work far from Salem, sometimes thousands of miles away.

The agency’s list contains 494 employees but excludes workers at the Oregon Lottery, the State Treasury, the Secretary of State’s Office or the Department of Justice, which are classified as “full-time remote,” which according to the Willamette Week means they have received “permission to live and work in another state and are now expected to work in Oregon fewer than eight days a year.”

The list included 29 employees in Texas and 12 in Florida, both states with no income taxes. There are even four in Hawaii.

Knopp told the outlet, “I was outraged at the unfair policy and that taxpayers were footing the bill for out of state employees to be flown back into Oregon. The entire state senate has agreed with me and are sponsoring the bill.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: agw; arihoffman; climatechange; generator; governorgrifter; grifter; naturalgas; oregon; postmillennial; propane; thegrift; tinakotek; tinakotex; tinykotex
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To: george76

Typical liberal/democrat hypocrisy, exempting themselves from what they impose on everyone else.

Rules for thee but not for me.


21 posted on 02/28/2023 7:49:56 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Nifster

Biggest house generator I could find with a quick search, 150kw, which is a HUGE amount of power even for a mansion!

Even at that only costs 38k

https://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Generac-Protector-RG15090GNAC-Standby-Generator/p113834.html?utm_term=catch113834&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=catchbingpla&utm_content=bing-catch113834&msclkid=a4c4f75d6ce6165b08c894a34ec4c9e0&;


22 posted on 02/28/2023 7:50:55 AM PST by Skwor
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To: george76

The ruling elite lives high off the hog off of our money, while they make rules for us that they don’t obey. The ultimate insult is that they take our money and hate us.


23 posted on 02/28/2023 7:51:10 AM PST by I want the USA back (News media are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho, hoo hoo. )
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To: PROCON

Thanks, should have said she


24 posted on 02/28/2023 7:51:52 AM PST by Skwor
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To: george76
For $300K you could have plenty of solar panels, battery storage, a hydrogen electrolyzer to build hydrogen and store it in a tank for long term energy storage, and a hydrogen fuel cell to use it to power an all-electric home consuming 5 times as much as mine does (since we're talking about the governor's mansion) with no utilities except water, internet, and phone.

When the sun isn't enough the inverters would pull from the batteries. When battery charge gets low the inverters would run the fuel cell to convert hydrogen into electricity. During sunny times you charge the batteries. When batteries are fully charged you run the electrolyzer to store hydrogen gas for long term storage.

But that's only if she was serious about her greenie bit. This is obviously a case of palm greasing.

25 posted on 02/28/2023 7:52:48 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: george76
Adds a full building services generator to the facility for power, should normal utility power fail.”

Which it will when a state that gets little sunshine and almost no full sunshine switches off to solar.

26 posted on 02/28/2023 7:53:09 AM PST by AndyJackson (.)
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To: protoconservative

https://www.machineryzone.com/used/generator/1/3049/caterpillar/3516.html

Prices for used and new Cat 3516s. That is one humongous generator. But then nothing is too good or too expensive for our government overlords.


27 posted on 02/28/2023 7:53:24 AM PST by Blennos
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To: Blennos

1275kW natural gas genset at 480v

LMAO OMG I guess the governor’s mansion runs a mid sized machine shop and manufacturing base as well!!


28 posted on 02/28/2023 7:58:21 AM PST by Skwor
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To: george76

I looked at the project documents. They bought and installed a 100 kW Generac Industrial dual-fuel generator with a 400 Amp Single Phase output and a 200 Amp Single Phase output. Both feed new Automatic Transfer Switches.

A year and a half ago, I installed a similar installation: a 26 kW Briggs & Stratton single phase generator, concrete slab, new natural gas piping, new automatic transfer switch, and two load-shed modules to drop the AC and clothes dryer if we don’t have enough power. My total price to our electrical contractor was under $11,000 including generator, parts, and labor. The generator alone was $6,700. I hired a couple of contractors to hand-excavate and hand-pour a 8” thick concrete slab on 5 inches of compacted base rock with rebar. Slab cost was $1,200.

Generac 100 kW backup generators RG Series cost $31,047.

I cannot believe the Oregon project was quoted at $309,000.


29 posted on 02/28/2023 7:59:37 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly, your numbers are what I would have expected. 300k is so over the top as to be indefensible but these people just don’t care anymore, they know they are untouchable.


30 posted on 02/28/2023 8:02:35 AM PST by Skwor
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Kickbacks to the politicians ?


31 posted on 02/28/2023 8:05:17 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Why not cover the grounds with solar cells, build dozens of hulking windmills and rent several nearby warehouses for giant battery arrays (better include a massive fire protection system as well)? The peasants will be shivering in their darkened homes, but their leftist overlords will live in fossil fuel powered comfort.


32 posted on 02/28/2023 8:09:36 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Skwor

But it’s gubmint


33 posted on 02/28/2023 8:10:24 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: george76; Skwor

“Kickbacks to the politicians ?” — Possible, maybe probable.

My spec for my job was minimal. My slab spec was minimal. My contract was minimal.

I look at the engineering specs for the Oregon job and they are VOLUMINOUS and extremely detailed, just what you would expect for a commercial job. They’ve got details about where you can store materials, no foul language on the job site, no political posters, as well as all the technical specs (welding, piping flange designs, type of concrete, wiring, etc) plus references to many fire, electrical, and mechanical codes. It’s all standard boilerplate, but it still takes a lot of time to assemble that bid package, to prepare a bid, and to document compliance with the spec for the eventual lawsuits.

Could all that take a $50k job up to $300k? I’ve no doubt it could triple the $50k basic time & materials number, but that gets you to $150k. That’s still a big gap to $300k.


34 posted on 02/28/2023 8:29:30 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: Skwor

MAYBE-—MAYBE FOR A VERY LARGE HOSPITAL FACILITY


35 posted on 02/28/2023 8:41:36 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Tell It Right

DO THOSE batteries catch fire like car batteries???

Just asking


36 posted on 02/28/2023 8:45:47 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LIKE $600 toilet seats??


37 posted on 02/28/2023 8:47:17 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: george76

“project also includes adding a 500-gallon propane tank”

Obama had a 2500 gallon tank installed at his house on Martha’s Vineyard. 5X the size of this one for the OR Governor mansion.

Obama’s probably was to also heat the in ground pool on the MV property. Barry and Big Mike probably keep that pool at 87 degrees whenever they are going to be there. The Wookie is a warm water creature you see.

In comparison my local hardware store has a 1000 gallon tank that they use for refilling the 20 gallon tanks people typically have for their outdoor gas grills. It is about 10’ long and 5’ in diameter.


38 posted on 02/28/2023 9:09:25 AM PST by woodbutcher1963 ( )
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To: george76

Lars Larson (conservative radio talk show) is a North West treasure. Can’t say enough kind things about him.


39 posted on 02/28/2023 9:15:22 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: ridesthemiles

Exactly the same!


40 posted on 02/28/2023 9:21:39 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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