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Morgan Stanley Warns U.S. Stocks Are in “Death Zone” and Could Drop 26% in First Half of 2023
100percentfedup ^ | 2/22/2023 | amber crawford

Posted on 02/22/2023 9:26:32 PM PST by bitt

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To: bitt

I think the author got something wrong.

I think he meant the S&P could fall to 3000, not fall 3000 points. That would be S&P 1,000. That would be a Depression.


21 posted on 02/23/2023 5:00:55 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: Hostage
To fight the enemy, it is crucial to identify who they are. In the ‘Fog of War’ it will be difficult to discern who is and who is not the enemy.

Excellent post, but not for me - I can smell them, and kmow who they are the moment they start typing here on FR... which is loaded with them.

22 posted on 02/23/2023 5:23:16 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: vpintheak

Yep - couldn’t afford another hit when we retired so I put my stuff in plans that have a guaranteed return and which won’t lose a penny even if the market tanks.
Smaller returns but the security seems to be a good choice right now.


23 posted on 02/23/2023 5:28:41 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: MachIV
"One party rule is rapidly coming to play and we will soon be like old Rhodesia 1980."

Under British rule it was the most prosperous nation in Africa as was South Africa years ago. Rhodesia is now a financial, social, corrupt, economic, disaster. That is what Marxism did. South Africa is on the same path. It will not end well.

24 posted on 02/23/2023 5:58:10 AM PST by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-roughneck-oil field trash- drilling fluid tech-geologist-pilot- pharmacist)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

It’s terrible that we have to protect ourselves from our own leaders. Disgusting people that only look out for themselves and their chosen winners. Most of us end up losing. I pray we can get our house paid off soon and can afford to retire when I want to.


25 posted on 02/23/2023 7:01:58 AM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Who knows where it all goes? There are just about as many so called experts who say 20% up as there are who say 26% down. The fundamentals suggest doldrums but what do I or anyone know? They have supposedly had the higher interest rates baked in for a year and yet they, the market, run from one side of the boat to the other nearly each day if not every week with some new glee or disaster in their sights.

Cramer, another “expert”, gave us his six obvious points on what will turn the market. He is also the man whose Club Portfolio has done less than half as well in 21 years than just buying the S&P and letting it ride. In fact, hardly any money manager ever beats the segment index he is up against except for the Dow which is not a real index. Hard for me to hitch a wagon to such as these.

I am shocked and dismayed thought that I nor many others saw how artificial, bc of all the stimulus pumped into the economy, the rocket of ‘21 was and did not take all the profit they could at the end of that year. Some did, but not many. There have been other such years but not very often.

With the Fed closing their balance sheet built up over 13 years in just 3 years with two more to go I don’t see anything good coming in that time.

I keep trying to comfort myself by saying I have laid in for another 4 year’s siege but watching the market writhe like a snake stuck in tar is like balancing on the edge of a cliff.


26 posted on 02/23/2023 7:20:32 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: cpdiii

Exactly.


27 posted on 02/23/2023 9:42:21 AM PST by MachIV
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To: momincombatboots

Yes, we have turned our backs on God while supporting immoral acts in this once blessed nation.


28 posted on 02/23/2023 9:49:14 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: momincombatboots

(No one is coming to save us.)

That’s for certain.

🛐🙏✝️


29 posted on 02/23/2023 10:28:30 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Sequoyah101
I've traded stocks for many years now...I do not own a 401K,,,or anything like that. I pay short term cap gains...most of the time. Costs me around 43% per profitable trade...Feds/State taxes.

I talk to like minded people...about 5 or 6. We all joke about Cramer...Do the opposite of him!!!

30 posted on 02/23/2023 10:43:57 AM PST by Osage Orange
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To: Hostage

(the New World Order)

It is definitely coming and will not be avoided.

Daniel 7:23
King James Version

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%207%3A23&version=KJV


31 posted on 02/23/2023 1:19:27 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Osage Orange

There is a Cramer Contrarian club that does just that, the opposite of his recommendations. They have consistently beaten him.

Everybody advising in the trading game is selling something. They seem to all have some kind of bias or vested interest. At tleast the ones I see do.

43% is a lot. I don’t take that kind of risk for uncle sugar to get that kind of ride. A lot will tell you profit is the name of the game and not to pay attention to taxes. When they ride my gains but limit the “benefits” of my losses it just doesn’t taste right. To each his own of course.


32 posted on 02/23/2023 2:43:16 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Osage Orange

My risk is generally short term...thus ST gains...and losses.


33 posted on 02/23/2023 3:29:08 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: SaveFerris; All

Let 4th Beast = NWO.

Let’s think how this might play out.

NWO is already here. The 4th Beast is here now as the NWO.

The 4th Beast will be defeated by the Son of Man leading the Church and protecting G_d’s people, the Jews.

The Son of Man is known to Christians as Christ Jesus. Jesus is always here, and will be evident in leading His Church to overcome the 4th Beast. We might think the Church led by Christ will take down the NWO.

Donald Trump can be thought of as a Great Warrior of Christ and Protector of the Jewish People. Some who write of the moral order write that President Trump in 2016 signaled the beginning of the end of the NWO and their banking control.

We might think Donald Trump’s purpose in 2024 and continuing through 2028 is to lead Americans to follow The Truth and Light of Christ and defeat the NWO.

The above is one possible explanation. The news is good.

NWO is going down.

Lots of strange unverifiable things are said and written about End Times, Beast, Son of Man, Trump and so on.

As for most of us, we focus on removing Biden, returning President Trump to the Oval Office, reviving our faith, and obeying G_d.


34 posted on 02/23/2023 6:17:16 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

(NWO is already here. The 4th Beast is here now as the NWO)

This thing will get stronger. It will run for the 7 years of ‘Peace and Security’.

There will be a ‘peace’ deal that divides Israel.

That may follow in the immediate aftermath of World War III. Which seems to be on the horizon.

✝️🙏🛐


35 posted on 02/24/2023 12:24:23 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
I'm thinking of doing some work but mostly because I do want some money to be left for my kids....

its the property taxes that kill us....

I can't be a hospital nurse again though....too much physical work....

36 posted on 02/24/2023 12:29:41 AM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

I spent 42 years in commercial banking. Lost my last job in a merger. I wouldn’t go back as the industry has gone to the devil. The scandals at Wells Fargo and Bank of America are a failure of leadership. The average bank employee is just a pawn.


37 posted on 02/24/2023 2:37:41 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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