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Unless We Abandon Globalism, China Will Win: China doesn’t care about international law, should we?
Frontpage Mag ^ | 02/16/2023 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 02/16/2023 8:13:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Chinese spy balloons have briefly captured the nation’s imagination, but they’re just another in a series of surveillance layers that begins with satellites and ends with phone apps. The spy balloons seem odd, but they reveal the thoroughness and dedication of Beijing’s data hounds who are not satisfied with hacking us, embedding thousands of spies in our universities and tech firms, but want that added edge with slow-motion spying on our bases and defenses.

The balloon may seem silly but it reveals a rigorous mindset that ought to be frightening.

China’s economic warfare hollowed out our economy in the same dedicated fashion, aiming low to aim high, capturing our industries from the bottom so that we laughed at all the ‘Made in China’ junk and we went on laughing until it became impossible to find anything else. No aspect of our economy was too unimportant to outsource and no angle was overlooked. Our retail sector now consists of buying American brands that are made in China from Chinese third party sellers on Amazon. Soon we’ll be buying Chinese brands on Chinese platforms like Alibaba.

The same obsessive attention to detail that served China so well in its economic war is at play in its war plans. Having lost an economic war to China, we’re sleepwalking into a military defeat.

Even on our end, we’ve lost war games against China over and over again.

“The trend in our war games was not just that we were losing, but we were losing faster,” Air Force Lt. Gen. S. Clinton Hinote stated. We’re losing because we have no serious plan to win and that’s because we don’t really believe that there will be a war and so we don’t need to.

China is serious. We’re not. Xi lives in a zero-sum world. So does the rest of the Communist regime. They believe that for them to win, we have to lose. They’d rather not fight a war and they would prefer that we decline into oblivion while selling our souls for consumer gadgets, but they are seriously preparing to fight and win a battle that will establish them as the world power.

Our leaders speak of China as being a “competitor” rather than an enemy. That’s a concession on our end, but China has no intention of merely competing, it wants to end the competition.

We don’t. And that’s why we’re setting ourselves up for defeat.

Despite the defeatism in some circles, China is not naturally superior to us. But, like most of our opponents, it’s nationalistic while we have decayed into a globalist apathy that claims to care about the world, but without any particular attachment to any part of it including our own.

China knew that it could stomp over Hong Kong and that it would excite no more opposition from most of the western world and its leaders than the manifold human rights abuses all over the world. Similarly, it anticipates that if it can manage to take Taiwan, the story will vanish in the news cycle the way that fighting in dozens of other places in the world have.

In the globalist paradigm, everything matters and so nothing matters. China’s human rights abuses deserve no more and no less attention than those in Africa, the Middle East, or the rest of Asia. Untethered from national interests, we have come to view China’s advance through the dispassionate lens of human rights activism, outraged over everything and dedicated to nothing.

Globalism seduced us into handing out pieces of our economy to any nation willing to take it on the disproven theory that binding nations together through collective economic interests would end war and usher in a collective humanity, a European Union, a North American Union, a United States of Africa, a New Middle East, an Asian Federation, and finally a United Earth.

“No two countries that both have a McDonald’s have ever fought a war against each other,” Thomas Friedman idiotically argued in his paean to globalization, ‘The World Is Flat’. “No two countries that are both part of a major global supply chain, like Dell’s, will ever fight a war against each other as long as they are both part of the same global supply chain.”

Someone forgot to tell Russia and Ukraine.

America’s Cold War diplomatic strategy, carved out by FDR and Truman administration holdovers, hinged on a multilateralism built around the UN and international organizations, that at times suspiciously resembled a mirror image of the USSR, to avert a world war. The Soviet Union easily infiltrated and took over the multilateral organizations, beginning with the UN, and built alliances with third world nations that kept free western nations on the diplomatic defense.

Every Republican administration until Reagan put all of its efforts into maintaining this house of cards as the only way to avert the horrors of nuclear war. The more domestic propagandists terrified us with nuclear bombs falling on our cities while children were taught to cower under desks (not in the hopes of saving their lives, but of terrifying their parents into clamoring for a diplomatic solution), the more we turned to the globalism that was slowly destroying us.

And then the Soviet Union fell.

Having learned nothing, or perhaps everything, the Clinton administration made globalism into the axis of our foreign policy. The world was divided between progressive regimes, abiding by international law and institutions, and reactionary ones opposed to the international order. Instead of returning to our national interests, we put our military at the disposal of the UN, we fought to bring democracy to countries united only by the democratic desire to kill all infidels.

Biden complained that China violated “international law” by flying spy balloons over our territory. China responded by accusing us of violating its territory. This tedious tit-for-tat legal wrangling, so familiar from the Cold War, is also entirely besides the point. Do we object to China spying on us on the grounds of international law or national interest? Anti-American leftists and a few rightists excel at pointing out where America has violated international law. But nations that prioritize their interests view violations of international law as strategic, not moral. We shouldn’t care that China violated international law, but we should care that it violated our territory. And that it did so as part of a larger program to spy on us in order to military defeat us.

To globalists, this is a minor matter. A war between China and America is to be avoided not because they care about America, but because all wars are bad as a matter of principle. They interfere with the free flow of commerce, raise ocean temperatures and teach little boys warlike behavior. But as Americans, China’s military and economic threat to us should be foremost.

The myth of international law is dying a slow death in Ukraine. But it’s died many times before, in two world wars and countless massacres, wars and genocides since, especially in Africa. The international conclaves of “people of goodwill” have accomplished nothing except to build lifetime careers bemoaning the millions of deaths that they have utterly failed to prevent while claiming that those track records of failure somehow endow them with moral authority.

Moral authority cannot be vested in multilateral institutions, only national ones because only nations can be animated by a clear and defining sense of right and wrong rooted in their cultures that they implement by risking the lives of their people. That doesn’t mean that nations are necessarily right, either always or at all, but, unlike globalist ones, they are meaningful.

Globalism claims to represent everyone while representing no one. Its ambitions are as vast in scope as they are empty. Its world government of abstractions commands the loyalty of no one even while basing everything discredited theories that have never worked in the real world.

China’s ambitions are equally global, but it is not globalist. It has a clear plan to expand its territories locally and its economic empire globally. The only way we can even begin to fight it is by making the vital nationalistic calculation that we must be at the epicenter of our interests. China is not a threat to the international order, but to us, and it has effectively used the international order to weaken us, bleeding our economy and shackling our military operations.

No one wants a war with China, but, as WWII showed us, the surest way to stumble into one is to pompously proclaim the dogma of international law that we have no intention of defending, while having no notion of how to deal with an enemy that isn’t seeking a diplomatic solution.

England and France were convinced until the last minute that Hitler wanted a diplomatic solution. The FDR administration believed that the Japanese diplomats were there to negotiate in good faith until the bombs fell from the sky on Pearl Harbor. China’s attack, if it comes, will be equally sudden, ruthless and decisive unless we wake up from our daze and deal with reality.

(If COVID was deliberately released from a lab, it was a mere underpowered trial run.)

America’s leaders, Democrats and Republicans, still live in a globalist fantasy in which most issues can be worked out across conference tables, and in the worst case scenario, sanctions can be used to bring recalcitrant regimes to the table. North Korea, Iran and now the Ukraine war have taught them nothing. The globalist fallacy is that everyone wants to be globalists.

They don’t. Instead, serious nations want to be global world powers.

International law was created to bind us to be reactive, to appease and to bribe other nations to join us in the globalist utopia. As a result we have lost our edge, betrayed our allies, and put ourselves on a path to defeat. If we are going to confront China and avoid a war, we need to take a leaf from its playbook and remember the lessons of our own history. Weakness and empty rhetoric impress no one. America should be strong and silent. We should let our actions speak louder than words, make few threats, but demonstrate that we would win any war.

China, its goods and services, its companies and its scientists, should have no place in this country. The entire question of being open to Chinese commerce should not even be considered until the day that China is willing to open its borders to us the way that we have to it. Our enemies have clearly shown us what we have forgotten: a military rides on the economy.

We have a limited window in which China has out-competed us economically, but not militarily, unless we shift that balance of power soon, then we will be stuck in a weaker position. And we will need to retreat from Asia entirely while trying to maintain what’s left of our economy. By then, there will be negotiations, not over the status of Taiwan, but the status of Hawaii.

Either we will shed globalism and rediscover our national interests or, like much of Europe, the question of national interests will become irrelevant because we will have limited scope for asserting them. We will retreat into globalism, not to restrain our strength, but to protect our weakness, and then we will be a few generations away from total national extinction.

It’s not too late, but if we refuse to remember what makes nations great, it will be.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; chicoms; china; donate; globalism
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To: central_va
Read history. It’s not rocket surgery. Even you could understand it.

Bwahahahaha! The old ad hominem trick.

Anyone who has read my comments here over the years would know how far off the mark your taunt falls.

This is a discussion forum. Learn to debate sportingly. Use logic, reason or a cited source to back up your claims.

41 posted on 02/17/2023 8:09:56 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: adorno

This forum is best used for ensuring that conservatism does not die with the older generation. It is a place for those who believe they know about our Constitutional freedoms could make best use of the opportunity by sharing with those coming along, instead of only with those whom you believe are your intellectual peers. If your acumen is as special as you claim, have a care for the next generation.

Or, die under the commie boot if you’re too good to do your part.


42 posted on 02/17/2023 8:17:52 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde
If your acumen is as special as you claim, have a care for the next generation.

I made no claims. I assumed that FR had members with the intellectual acumen to understand what was being said without having to spell things out as if they were intellectually incapable.

Understand the difference?
43 posted on 02/18/2023 4:56:14 AM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

I understand you are vain about your intellect. So, prove yourself useful instead of rather constantly contrarian.


44 posted on 02/18/2023 9:13:56 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde
I understand you are vain about your intellect.

Not vain. Superior. ;)

So, prove yourself useful instead of rather constantly contrarian.

No need to prove anything. ;)

Contrarians are often the most useful people on the planet. ;)

But, aren't you being the contrarian yourself? Sometimes, it's difficult to recognize that you are that of which you speak ill. ;)

BTW, why are you taking things so seriously and angrily? Calm down. No need to raise your blood pressure and get a heart attack. ;)
45 posted on 02/18/2023 9:23:39 AM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

“superior.” bwahahahahaha


46 posted on 02/18/2023 12:23:13 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde
“superior.” bwahahahahaha

You just proved your inferiority (not a laughing matter), so, superior I am. ;)
47 posted on 02/18/2023 12:34:47 PM PST by adorno
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To: All

China will use any manner of attack on us. But, they have few allies to expand beyond the first island chain.

They will eventually attack Taiwan and we will be in it. If we fight a boundary war, we lose. If we hit the Chinese coast and knock out their missile and airbases we will win.

It will be a Naval and NavAir battle with some strategic strike elements with stealth involved. We will lose ships but we will win.


48 posted on 02/18/2023 12:41:47 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: adorno

Stop! You’re a riot! Hahahahahahaha!


49 posted on 02/18/2023 1:12:47 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde
Stop! You’re a riot! Hahahahahahaha!
>br> Dummies are easily entertained. ;)

Hey, look over there, grass growing!

I'm sure you'll enjoy that. ;)
50 posted on 02/18/2023 3:06:49 PM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

51 posted on 02/18/2023 3:52:50 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde

See?

I knew grass growing would be hilarious to you. ;)


52 posted on 02/18/2023 3:59:54 PM PST by adorno
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To: Albion Wilde

I can’t debate someone that is so obdurate that they cannot see the absurdity of a discussion about fighting globalism without using the word tariff even one time!! If you can’t see that then you are too ignorant to dabate. All I can do is ridicule your stupidity.


53 posted on 02/19/2023 6:03:31 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Albion Wilde

dabate = debate ( typo )


54 posted on 02/19/2023 6:04:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nobody does unless it suits them.


55 posted on 02/19/2023 6:04:52 AM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: central_va

I note that you’re a one-issue guy.


56 posted on 02/19/2023 9:17:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde

LOL. It appears that not until the old globalist “conservative” farts die off will the USA will go back to sane trade protectionist policies.


57 posted on 02/20/2023 4:45:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: nathanbedford
I remain perplexed about why the Chinese have, in effect, poked a sleeping giant.

I suspect that it's a case of "now or never". 1) The Communist Party may exist in name only at this point, having morphed into something of a technofascist police state, but they still hold power over an increasingly unruly populace that has tasted a bit of freedom prior to 2016. History proves that the surest way to quell internal dissent is to draw focus towards an external enemy.

2) The U.S. is burdened with a senile figurehead controlled by gang of incompetent crypto marxists and moral reprobates. The American populace has never been so divided - purposely mind you - by a government and media which has squandered whatever credibility it may have once enjoyed by the people.

3) We are obsessively engaged in a desultory war amongst two very corrupt nations in the European theatre at a time when we cannot secure our own borders, nor manage our own fiscal affairs, secure the power grid or food supplies.

4) Balloons are cheap and plentiful. Missiles are expensive. We have shown a willingness to expend whatever stockpiles are not going to Ukraine shooting down $1 balloons at half a million dollars a pop. The chinese get to deplete our arrows without them having to fire a shot.

I am not at all perplexed at the timing.

58 posted on 02/20/2023 5:10:34 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: central_va
LOL. It appears that not until the old globalist “conservative” farts die off will the USA will go back to sane trade protectionist policies.

If by your series of groundless insults you are implying that I am a globalist, you are greatly mistaken. I am entirely in favor of tariffs.

However, as I stated above, tariffs are not the SOLE answer, as you imply, to the problem we are now facing, which is that so much of our industry has already been offshored. Trump did address a variety of trade issues, such as encouraging onshore manufacturing again, dealing with the multitudes of regulations that environmentalists have put in place, and curbing currency manipulation. There is also the matter of raw materials sourcing, R&D concerning our use of materials that we can produce inshore, the foreign ownership of many of our transportation hubs... I could go on, but this is what I mean when I said tariffs alone will not solve the PRESENT situation.

59 posted on 02/20/2023 8:50:32 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde
which is that so much of our industry has already been offshored.

Which is the point of tariffs. A tariff will FORCE repatriation of offshored industries.

60 posted on 02/20/2023 1:05:49 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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